Tuesday, April 29, 2008

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Re: Paul is Dead [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 29 Apr 2008 04:29 AM CDT

I remember seeing a documentary about it a few years ago. Good for a laugh.

Re: first reaction when seeing this clip [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 29 Apr 2008 03:05 AM CDT

i always loved the 'oOOoOoooh' part that played before 'brian' is on the piano...its so eerie and lovely...i wish i could get a recording of just that.

Re: first reaction when seeing this clip [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 29 Apr 2008 02:56 AM CDT

This is just as much a soap opera as the Steven Gaines book, only here it's more obvious because it's a movie. If you take it for what it is (a work of fiction, based on distorted facts and rock star legends), it's even kind of entertaining, though the portrayal of BW sure is abysmal. Just keep in mind this is not about the group, it's about the way people like to see them.

Re: first reaction when seeing this clip [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 29 Apr 2008 01:30 AM CDT

it's an entertaining film that plays like a teenage comic book. all it needs is thought bubbles! For example: Al: "This beats filling teeth!"

I agree that the portrayal of Brian dumbs him down. Is that an older voiced Brian over-dubbed for the songs?

Murray and Dennis are like I imagined them. The whole Manson scenes seem bonkers to me: apart from the background music. Was CM such a cartoon monster? And did Dennis dig anything about him apart from the lifestyle activities?

Re: first reaction when seeing this clip [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 28 Apr 2008 11:32 PM CDT

my first reaction was, "Why'd they get Harland Williams to play Brian Wilson?"

Re: Bob Dylan Thread [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 28 Apr 2008 11:17 PM CDT

This is a comp I recently made for the car:

Bob Dylan 1967 - 1977

1. The Mighty Quinn
2. You Ain't Goin' Nowhere
3. If Not For You
4. Lay Lady Lay
5. Simple Twist Of Fate (Rolling Thunder Revue)
6. Forever Young (The Last Waltz)
7. Baby Let Me Follow You Down (The Last Waltz)
8. This Wheel's On Fire
9. One More Cup Of Coffee
10. Lily Of The West
11. You're A Big Girl Now
12. Tangled Up In Blue
13. If You See Her Say Her Hello
14. Hurricane
15. I Shall Be Released (The Last Waltz)
16. All Along The Watchtower (Before The Flood)
17. Knockin' On Heaven's Door
18. Father Of Night
19. Shelter From The Storm

Additions? Deletions? Comments?

Re: let it be (the film) [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 28 Apr 2008 11:01 PM CDT

Yeah, Paul's having a real tough time on deciding if he wants to make millions or not.    LOL

Re: Paul is Dead [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 28 Apr 2008 10:40 PM CDT

I happen to stumble upon a message board tonight devoted entirely to the Paul is dead subject. I can assure you that there are some people who are VERY convinced that it is real.

Re: first reaction when seeing this clip [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 28 Apr 2008 10:10 PM CDT

Brian is portrayed as a total idiot.  The guy had issues with drugs and bipolar disease....he wasn't mentally retarded.  Listen to interviews and sessions through 1973....the guy was cognitively intact.

I thought Dennis and Mike came off relativel realistic.

I found it as difficult to watch now as when it was released.  Some of the musical segments were fine.

Very good insight on Brian. He was played a lot more normal in the 1990 film.

Re: Song or album that turned you onto The Beach Boys [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 28 Apr 2008 09:54 PM CDT

To promote it they were showing An American Family on VH1 classic.  I didn't know much about the Beach Boys aside from the hits, and as inaccurate or whatever as that movie is, it was what got me more curious.

Hey that's cool. So there is other people out there who were turned onto the Beach Boys from that movie!!

Re: first reaction when seeing this clip [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 28 Apr 2008 09:53 PM CDT

As much as people hate this movie, I still have a soft spot for it. Partly because it was how I became aware of the Beach Boys. I think it is a much better movie than Summer Dreams. I think Mike+Murry look the best and I think those two as well as Dennis are portrayed pretty well. I do have a problem with the portrayal of Brian, just like everyone else here. And of course the second part of the movie sucks.

Re: first reaction when seeing this clip [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 28 Apr 2008 09:41 PM CDT

Brian is portrayed as a total idiot.  The guy had issues with drugs and bipolar disease....he wasn't mentally retarded.  Listen to interviews and sessions through 1973....the guy was cognitively intact.

I thought Dennis and Mike came off relativel realistic.

I found it as difficult to watch now as when it was released.  Some of the musical segments were fine.

Re: Beach Boy Divorce Settlements [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 28 Apr 2008 09:38 PM CDT

Being married to an egomaniac isn't exactly a stroll through the park. I'm surprised he found that many who said "I will".

Money talks.

Re: Paul is Dead [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 28 Apr 2008 09:36 PM CDT

Some people wish things were more interesting than they really are.

I agree Luther. Obviously Beatles fans (and indeed we do it too) were just looking for something to talk about. But seriously, is there people out there who still believe Paul is Dead? Like for real??

Re: Paul is Dead [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 28 Apr 2008 09:33 PM CDT

Some people wish things were more interesting than they really are. Brian is some sort of hermit-genius. Paul is dead. Blah blah.

Re: Beach Boy Divorce Settlements [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 28 Apr 2008 09:26 PM CDT

Ohh so thats how Al and Mary Ann met, you never hear what happened between he and Lynda. They beat the odds, had to be married for close to 20 years and then divorced in 82? Every original had gone through at least 1 divorce by then.

And of course Mike had the record with about 6 or 7 divorces by then...did he marry every single woman he dated?
Being married to an egomaniac isn't exactly a stroll through the park. I'm surprised he found that many who said "I will".

Re: Beach Boy Divorce Settlements [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 28 Apr 2008 09:19 PM CDT

So did Marilyn get half of Brian's money?

I read somewhere that during the court separation of Landy, that Brian's estate was worth 80 million. Of course those numbers are all inflated by the press. Like Britney Spears is not worth 100 million, but closer to 40 million.

Re: Paul is Dead [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 28 Apr 2008 08:58 PM CDT

For anyone who wants to read more about it. I think it's pretty funny really.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Is_Dead

Re: Spring CD on eBay...can't find artwork. [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 28 Apr 2008 08:46 PM CDT

Yeah!  That's it!  Thanks for finding it for me.

Anyway, if anyone wants it, it's up on EBay.

Re: Paul is Dead [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 28 Apr 2008 08:39 PM CDT

The reason the few people who believe it believe it is because they believe he was replaced by a lookalike, so while it appears to everyone that "Paul" has been alive for the past five decades, the Paul is Dead people say that for the past four it's actually been Billy Shears.

Re: Beach Boy Divorce Settlements [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 28 Apr 2008 08:37 PM CDT

Ohh so thats how Al and Mary Ann met, you never hear what happened between he and Lynda. They beat the odds, had to be married for close to 20 years and then divorced in 82? Every original had gone through at least 1 divorce by then.

And of course Mike had the record with about 6 or 7 divorces by then...did he marry every single woman he dated?

Re: first reaction when seeing this clip [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 28 Apr 2008 08:33 PM CDT

Kind of silly but I agree with Chris Brown in that it really showcases the craziness from that era.

The Geronimo song is pretty good. Nice takeoff the SMiLE period although Da-Da is much better  Cool

Yes...I did cringe when the SMiLE sleeves were burned  Grin

Burning a SMiLE sleeve is sacrilege!

Re: first reaction when seeing this clip [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 28 Apr 2008 07:39 PM CDT

Kind of silly but I agree with Chris Brown in that it really showcases the craziness from that era.

The Geronimo song is pretty good. Nice takeoff the SMiLE period although Da-Da is much better  Cool

Yes...I did cringe when the SMiLE sleeves were burned  Grin

Re: first reaction when seeing this clip [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 28 Apr 2008 06:51 PM CDT

I don't think the movie is that bad. Yes, there was a deep side to Brian that fans love to romanticize, but you have to remember that Mike Love and the other Beach Boys were not really included in the creative process of SMiLE.  Brian probably hid his intellectual side from his conservative family. Remember, what might sound intellectually edgy in academic circles could easily sound ridiculous and naive to a more conservative crowd. Look at how evolution is still mocked even to this day by some conservatives.  Also, I've known people who got really into amphetamines (I have experimented as well), and if you have been up for a day or two on amphetamines and have been smoking marijuana, you are going to sound "wacked out"  to someone straight-laced, even if you still have the mental capacity to produce profound works, such as many of the SMiLE songs. It's a very queer state of mind. I think the movie provides an accurate portrayal of what Brian most likely appeared to look like to the band at the time, not necessarily what he was like on a day-to-day basis. Remember, there are a lot of people who viewed Brian almost as a sort of idiot savant, which goes in line with whole "amateur human being" bit.

Re: The *official* Brian/BB picture thread [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 28 Apr 2008 06:39 PM CDT

David is cooler in this pic because he's got more talent than Mike
LOL Head Spin w00t! Kool-Aid Man

'Tis true, but that line's been played to death, including by me.

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