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Charles LePage: Chemists For Brian Wilson (via FriendFeed) [Smiley Smile Dot Net]

Posted: 02 Nov 2008 06:01 AM CST

FriendFeed Charles LePage posted a link
 "A 57-year-old Oxford-educated chemist is as giddy as a schoolboy when Brian Wilson, of Beach Boys fame, launches into yet another hit. The man turns to his son, who has taken him to the concert for his birthday, and blurts out: "That's what I want to do when I grow up."" - Charles LePage

Re: Van Dyke Parks [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 02 Nov 2008 06:00 AM CST

I finally have seen something I want to respond to here, and VDP is my prime candidate for a very limited edition boxed set that would collect the best of his tracks from his albums. and some other tracks, such as those from the early Loss Leader albums that are worth using. We could start with the Steeltown Two and work forward to the present day.

Seconced, thirded, fourthed, and fifthed. There must be lots of hidden gems out there... somewhere I have the commercial for Datsun cars he did. It is so... weirdly beautiful, with those nymphs chanting the name of the car. Really, it exists outside of time. Ahead of time, or very backwards, or left or right or everywhere.
Say, Peter, can you make that a limited+1 box set edition (just in case)?

Re: POB 3LP set [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 02 Nov 2008 05:33 AM CST

I haven't seen anyone else post this, forgive me if I am just blind.

My POB vinyl 3LP set arrived today....bloody hell I am blown away. I'd never heard POB before, it's a really great record. I haven't got to the Bambu material yet, I am just giving the first disc a second go.

But the quality of the triple LP set....first off its on lovely blue vinyl, which makes  a lovely touch. The packaging is gorgeous triple-gatefold made from heavy card (though not as heavy as the US SMiLE release) and includes a separate lyric sheet booklet and a printed "handwirtten" message from Dennis. I suspect these are in the CD booklet too, but in 12x12 size for the former and 6x6" for the latter...truly stunning.

I am glad I paid the extra for the LPs! Worth the wait.



Nice. I have the original LP and always liked the photos (although I always wondered why the cover shot is the haziest of them all).

Re: Shock At The Local Drug Store... [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 02 Nov 2008 05:32 AM CST

I think Gary Usher's 'Add Some Music' CD should play in every store. It is sooo soooothing...

(oh, and I still wonder whenever I hear an old Elvis Costello song in the local superstore. Strange: buying groceries whilst hearing 'Chelsea'... there was a time when this song could be found in the 'punk'-racks in my record shop. It was considered quite subversive and revolutionary. And how many people will know that 'Golden Brown' by the Stranglers (a muzak classic) actually is about the joys of heroin? Or, what Lou Reed's 'Walk On The Wild Side' is about?

On the other hand, Nick Lowe proved once and for all that you can use any lyric for a pop song with his 'Jesus Of Cool' LP. Lovely dance pop, about the decaying corpse of Marie Provost (being eaten by her own dogs); breaking glass; alligators doing their thang in the heart of the city; having been born a woman; and being 36" high. And, um, about the strange topic of love.)

Re: The Definitive Vocal Credits Thread... [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 02 Nov 2008 05:32 AM CST

A brief return to clear up this nonsense. Firstly:


AGD, the point I would like to make is that I think Bruce may be joking or not saying everything. Perhaps he said it was Carl, meaning that Carl sang it live, or in some similar way he didn't make known that it was he himself. In my previous post on this thread I was trying to reconcile the statements of Bruce and Al with my ears.

However, I've changed my mind again from that last post. The lines I thought could be Carl or even Al or Dennis are not sufficiently different from the lines I know to be Bruce, and I even can see them as likely to be Bruce too.

In fact I agree with everyone who says it's clearly one person singing the entire song. Except that that one person is Bruce.

Here is the track sheet for the 8-track tape:

1 - guitar rhy
2 - percussion
3 - drums
4 - stratocaster
5 - acc guitar
6 - bass
7 - Carl lead first verse
8 - Carl lead 2nd verse

So, it's Carl... Carl Wilson, brother of Dennis & Brian. Not Bruce, not Alan, not Murry, not Glen, not Blondie. Carl. End of debate, unless someone here is seriously stupid (and that's a definite possibility).

Secondly, the "GOK 07" video. I sent Bruce the link to it. He told me he'd looked at it, and that it wasn't him. Further, a source I trust implicitly informs me that the track for the video is the released version in a mono fold-down, which of course totally changes the character of the recording.

But in any event, as has been stated several times, can anyone here think of a logical reason why anyone would want, or need, to edit less than ***TWO SECONDS*** of a 1966 recording into the new version ?  I guess they just happened to have a copy of Pet Sounds knocking around the studio and thought, "hey, let's make our job even more difficult, let's splice in two seconds of this into the video".

I am, of course, entirely wasting my time for, as my late father often said, "can't make someone listen if they don't want to hear". Bye.

Re: I Was Made To Lover Her - question about Wild Honey song [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 02 Nov 2008 05:30 AM CST

Who sings lead? Mike Lover?

Re: Brian on the cover of EQ Magazine - New Interviews [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 02 Nov 2008 05:29 AM CST

An infamous '70s Rolling Stone cover story depicted an overweight Wilson wrapped in a multicolored terrycloth robe, wandering the halls of a local allnight pharmacy, and rumors of Wilson being diagnosed with schizophrenia and treated for a drug-induced stroke saturated the media.

  Huh

Re: Big News - Mike Love records with Al Jardine [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 02 Nov 2008 05:25 AM CST

I am not that keen on this project. Because material is being used that was done by guys now gone from us. We'll never know whether they endorsed this stuff. (BTW: I have the same feelings on Elvis' voice being tampered with; I disliked 'A Little Less Conversation' in its 'dance' identity, no matter how many representatives of the estate concurred; and the fact that it was used to propel the soccer world championships made it even less tasteful.
So: not for me, please.

Re: Big News - Mike Love records with Al Jardine [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 02 Nov 2008 05:24 AM CST

And let's not release a piece of merda as the swansong - because that's already been done!

Re: The Steven Gaines Thread [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 02 Nov 2008 05:18 AM CST

Hi Steven -

let me join the board members above - great to see you back! I am quite stunned about your list of recorded info on Brian and the Boys. Perhaps my initial thought is that of others here: on the one hand I'd love to know the contents; but on the other hand maybe there's stuff in there that might be hurtful to people still living (hurtful not of your free will of course, but because it might bring back sad memories).

I hope you'll drop by every now and then.

Re: I Was Made To Lover Her - question about Wild Honey song [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 02 Nov 2008 03:40 AM CST

My guess, and this is going by my memory of the RARITIES recording and not from any fresh listening, is that the two sections were recorded separately, and when they tried splicing them together (the version heard on RARITIES), it just didn't work, so they left it out.  IIRC the juxtaposition of the two sections on RARITIES is pretty awkward-sounding.

Re: I Was Made To Lover Her - question about Wild Honey song [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 02 Nov 2008 12:48 AM CDT

Good question. It's not like the album is overlong or anything...

Re: The Mark Linett Thread [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 02 Nov 2008 12:17 AM CDT

It's not a dead subject. None of the higher-ups are actually commenting on the video, they're commenting on the track.

Re: Big News - Mike Love records with Al Jardine [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 01 Nov 2008 11:33 PM CDT

Ahhh yesssss!!  Great news!!  One step closer.

Come on fellas, light candles for Carl and Dennis, gather round the micrphone, and let's do this thing!!!

I Was Made To Lover Her - question about Wild Honey song [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 01 Nov 2008 10:33 PM CDT


I know this is something that has been brought up before around here, but I don't remember what the explanation is.

On the Wild Honey album a verse from the original Stevie Wonder song is not included, the part with the killer bass line that begins 'All Through Thick And Thin, Our Love Just Won't End..."

I just figured they decided not to perform that part for their own reasons. Then I heard the cd from the early 80's album Rarities which has 'I Was Made To Love Her' from the  Wild Honey album and included the missing section of the song as a tag. So they did record that section of the song! Now, why didn't they release the entire song with all the verses back in 1967? It would of made the song a lot more awesome.

Re: The Mark Linett Thread [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 01 Nov 2008 10:02 PM CDT

And one wonders why AGD quit the board.  Mark answered the question as it was the video that brought up the whole thing anyway.  Dead subject.

Re: The Mark Linett Thread [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 01 Nov 2008 09:46 PM CDT

He didn't answer anything. We already know Bruce isn't on the actual new track that's on the CD. The question is whether or not the Beach Boys 1966 Pet Sounds recording of God Only Knows was featured in the last few seconds of that video clip. Mark answered another question entirely.

Re: Does Bruce always wear a hat? [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 01 Nov 2008 09:44 PM CDT

His hairline has definitely receded over the years. We know Mike is bald because we've seen pictures throughout the decades without him wearing a hat. If Bruce's baldness just happened recently, we may never see a picture of it.

Brian on the cover of EQ Magazine - New Interviews [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 01 Nov 2008 09:38 PM CDT

New interviews with Brian, Scott Bennett and Mark Linett.

http://www.eqmag.com/article/another-day-peering/nov-08/88777

Re: Big News - Mike Love records with Al Jardine [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 01 Nov 2008 09:30 PM CDT


It's gonna happen! Shocked Shocked Shocked

http://hangout.altsounds.com/news/96032-the-beach-boys-settle-lawsuit.html




The Beach Boys settle lawsuit

Two former The Beach Boys have ended a five-year legal row over the use of the The Beach Boys' name.

Mike Love had argued he was the only person allowed to perform under the name of the band.

He sued Al Jardine, whom he claimed was appearing as an unlicensed The Beach Boys act, and had demanded $1m (£504,000) in earnings plus double that sum in costs.

A trial was due to begin next month but Jardine's lawyer Lawrence Noble said "a friendly settlement" had been reached. He said : "Mr Jardine feels very happy and feels that this is a friendly settlement that allows them to focus on the talent and future of this American iconic band."

The agreement was reached at the end of two days of Superior Court discussions in Los Angeles . No details of the settlement were disclosed, reports BBC. (nme)


Hey Melinda...can Brian come out and play?

Re: Big News - Mike Love records with Al Jardine [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 01 Nov 2008 07:12 PM CDT

I've been trying to focus on the positive, but it's still necessary to cut through the crap. Having Mike Love put his vocals on "Beyond The Sea" to achieve the early BB vocal blend is probably Reason #7 for bringing Mike in.

Al has his other reasons, more important reasons. How about selling his album with a "new" Beach Boys' song on it, or being able to list another big name on the credits, or putting even more guests on the sticker/advertising of the CD, or having something to talk about in his interviews, or being the one who brought the guys back together, or helping to get himself back in the Beach Boys.

Don't get me wrong, I don't care what his motives are. I'm just glad he's doing it. police

 

Re: Big News - Mike Love records with Al Jardine [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 01 Nov 2008 06:59 PM CDT

Still, your "recent" example is 23 years old... It's the Beach Boys debut to BB85.

Re: The Mark Linett Thread [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 01 Nov 2008 06:37 PM CDT

Mark answered this several times already on this thread. 

44       Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: New Brian version of God only knows       on: February 11, 2007, 03:33:37 PM
Quote from: SloopJohnB on February 11, 2007, 02:05:21 PM
It's DEFINITELY Bruce in the last two seconds of the song. Maybe not in the "final product" that'll be released, but on the soundclip featured in this video, it IS Bruce.

I knew this "discussion" woldn't die just because I posted the facts.

Believe whatever you like, but that is not Bruce nor is the original recording used for any part of the track. To do so would cause all sorts of legal issues and there is no reason to use it anyway. This is meant to be a new recording by Brian of GOK.  If memory serves it's Probyn who sings the answer line at the end of the song.

Mark Linett

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45     Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: New Brian version of God only knows    on: February 11, 2007, 12:20:10 PM
To lay these rumours to rest, this is a 100% new recording of GOK performed by Brian and his band. 

Mark Linett

Re: Big News - Mike Love records with Al Jardine [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 01 Nov 2008 06:24 PM CDT

Just to clarify for those who aren't aware, Carl is on this new recording by way of old vocal sessions for the song. Therefore talks about not achieving the pre-1965 blend because Carl is absent are wrong, although of course Dennis is not on it.

The disparity between the 1965 and 2008 voices of Brian should be noted too though as a big obstacle.

True, though I've always been quite surprised at how well Brian fits back in with his more worn voice. Such as the 1985 performance of Their Hearts Were Full of Spring: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=7Vy4eVYJQrs

Re: Big News - Mike Love records with Al Jardine [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 01 Nov 2008 06:21 PM CDT

Just to clarify for those who aren't aware, Carl is on this new recording by way of old vocal sessions for the song. Therefore talks about not achieving the pre-1965 blend because Carl is absent are wrong, although of course Dennis is not on it.

The disparity between the 1965 and 2008 voices of Brian should be noted too though as a big obstacle.

Re: Big News - Mike Love records with Al Jardine [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 01 Nov 2008 04:28 PM CDT

Just to clarify for those who aren't aware, Carl is on this new recording by way of old vocal sessions for the song. Therefore talks about not achieving the pre-1965 blend because Carl is absent are wrong, although of course Dennis is not on it.

Just thought there was some confusion!

If you listen to the track on the al jardine website, it sounds a lot more like the 1980s beach boys blend, as I suppose it would.

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