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| Re: Postcard From California [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 07 Nov 2008 07:01 AM CST Look at The Who, Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd... no-one complained/complains when these guys reform despite their toll. Was that meant as ironic, or are you just not aware that a lot of people complain?Hmmm...when Pink Floyd reunited at Live 8, all the members were still alive & there...at least all the members who recorded the songs they peformed that day. So I can't imagine what the complaint would've been about. It was as authentic a reunion as anyone could've hoped for. As for Led Zep, sure Bonzo's gone, but his son was there...the only people I'm aware of complaining about that reunion were the ones who couldn't get tickets (and maybe Dave Grohl, who had hoped to drum for them!). Aye, I guess no-one complained about Syd's absence! Would a BB's reunion bolstered by sons of Dennis, CArl and Al work? Well, Matt was a great (!) addition when he toured with the Beach Boys. Carl B. (I believe, maybe Justyn)) said that he would like to be part of a BBs-reunion | ||
| Re: Postcard From California [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 07 Nov 2008 05:46 AM CST Look at The Who, Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd... no-one complained/complains when these guys reform despite their toll. Was that meant as ironic, or are you just not aware that a lot of people complain?Hmmm...when Pink Floyd reunited at Live 8, all the members were still alive & there...at least all the members who recorded the songs they peformed that day. So I can't imagine what the complaint would've been about. It was as authentic a reunion as anyone could've hoped for. As for Led Zep, sure Bonzo's gone, but his son was there...the only people I'm aware of complaining about that reunion were the ones who couldn't get tickets (and maybe Dave Grohl, who had hoped to drum for them!). Aye, I guess no-one complained about Syd's absence! Would a BB's reunion bolstered by sons of Dennis, CArl and Al work? | ||
| Re: Brian songs 71-75??? [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 07 Nov 2008 05:12 AM CST Sadly it's not Patty Cake, but a cover of a song called "Daddy Dear", discussed at length over here: http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,550.0.html | ||
| Re: Van Dyke Parks [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 07 Nov 2008 03:56 AM CST Ditto. I'm straight and gay marriage is illegal here, but I'd probably propose to him anyway. A word-nerd who plays a mean piano? Yes, please. Two more advantages. He loves his red wine, and allegedly he is a great cook (does exotic African soups, for instance). Yes. He'd make a great wife. Luther, go for it! | ||
| Re: Country Love writing credits [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 07 Nov 2008 02:39 AM CST The version I have has Hey Good Lookin' as the last track. I'm guessing he wrote most of First Love, too (besides the title track)? Some of the lyrics on those two albums are pretty dumb, but the melodies are decent. It's nice to know he the songs all by himself. | ||
| Re: Brian Wilson State Theater Minneapolis question(s)... [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 07 Nov 2008 01:54 AM CST If you have not already, head on over to Brian's site, there may be a pre-show meet up planned. | ||
| Re: Brian songs 71-75??? [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 07 Nov 2008 01:43 AM CST Yes "Patty Cake" can be heard in the A&E Biography documentary, during the part where Bruce is talking about Brian in the early 70's and how he would write brilliant songs that nobody ever heard outside his living room. So that's what that song is, I've always wondered about that. Man, I wish I could get my hands on that track!  | ||
| Re: Steve Hoffman to remaster \ [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 07 Nov 2008 01:13 AM CST "As far as the Reprise singles are concerned, I just checked my record price guide. Reprise released WIBN/Sloop John B........ and God Only Knows/Caroline, No as singles. WIBN/Caroline No was never released as a pair." So Brad Elliott's book is wrong about RPS 1336 ?" I stand corrected... to some extent. I just checked my guide again. Evidently Reprise had two different series of 45s. Originally, God Only Knows was paired with Caroline, No in 1973 on Reprise 0102. Then in 1975, WIBN/Caroline No was issued on 1336 as a reissue of sorts (with a different pairing than the original Reprise issue). These dates, however, may not be 100% correct, as I have found errors in this book before (I'm using an older Goldmine guide for 45s). Frankly, while I'm a record collector, I'm not too up on my Reprise 45rpm reissues of 1960s Beach Boys material because I hardly run across them. Guess they didn't sell too well. "Interesting info, Shane. Do you know if the vinyl pressing parts for both the LA and Scranton, PA pressing plants were always made in LA? Were tapes ever shipped to the Scranton, PA plant and then the vinyl pressing parts made there? If so, did they always use the LA tape, or was the New York safety copy ever used? Did Capitol ever enlist other (non-EMI owned) pressing plants, if needed, if their own plants were running at capacity?" Honestly, I'm still trying to figure out how the Scranton PA plant played into the Pet Sounds scenario. I know other Capitol LPs were pressed there, but I'm not sure about Pet Sounds. I've never seen a Scranton pressing of the album. Capitol did contract pressings out to other non-EMI pressing plants, but I believe it was only in cases where they couldn't keep up with demand... for instance, there are Beatles records out there that were pressed by RCA for Capitol. If I remember correctly, these LPs can be identified by a deep ring-shaped indentation underneath the label, about 3 inches in diameter. 45s will say "RCA" in the trail-off. "And, most importantly, can you explain what factors cause west coast pressings to "generally sound better than east coast pressings," especially if they were made from basically similar parts? Did the west coast plant use cleaner vinyl? Were the east coast presses older and thus somehow generally made inferior records?" All I can say is that the West Coast Capitol 1966 pressings of Pet Sounds have clearer, less "grainy" sound. This may be due to a better transfer from making the metal parts, or possibly better stampers. I know that stampers tend to degrade with use, but every West Coast copy I've ever heard has been consistently better than the East Coast copies. | ||
| Re: dookie [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 06 Nov 2008 11:48 PM CST Awesome. | ||
| Re: The Definitive Vocal Credits Thread... [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 06 Nov 2008 11:08 PM CST Bring baaaaaaaaack haaaaaaaaaaappy endings....  | ||
| Re: Big News - Mike Love records with Al Jardine [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 06 Nov 2008 10:39 PM CST Yeah, too bad, they won't drag a keyboard up there so the vocalist/bassist/keyboard player born in June '42 can''t help out on Let It Be Still, For You Baby Blue or even the Long, Tall and Winding Texan.  Dude...hilarious!  | ||
| Re: Postcard From California [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 06 Nov 2008 10:37 PM CST Look at The Who, Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd... no-one complained/complains when these guys reform despite their toll. Was that meant as ironic, or are you just not aware that a lot of people complain?Hmmm...when Pink Floyd reunited at Live 8, all the members were still alive & there...at least all the members who recorded the songs they peformed that day. So I can't imagine what the complaint would've been about. It was as authentic a reunion as anyone could've hoped for. As for Led Zep, sure Bonzo's gone, but his son was there...the only people I'm aware of complaining about that reunion were the ones who couldn't get tickets (and maybe Dave Grohl, who had hoped to drum for them!). | ||
| BRIAN WILSON TICKETS-RYMAN AUDITORIUM-NASHVILLE TN ["brian wilson"] Posted: 06 Nov 2008 09:55 PM CST
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| Re: Brian Wilson State Theater Minneapolis question(s)... [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 06 Nov 2008 09:51 PM CST Thanks for the helpful info Luther! Much appreciated. I take it with your opinion of current BB new release offerings that you won't be attending the show (not that there is anything wrong with that)  If I am wrong and you will be attending, find me and say hello (I will be the very sleep deprived 34 year old with a rum and coke in hand)!Cheers, Rich | ||
| Brian Wilson: I Just Wasn't Made for These Times (VHS) ["brian wilson"] Posted: 06 Nov 2008 09:32 PM CST | ||
| 1 TICKET AT STAGE 2nd ROW BRIAN WILSON NASHVILLE RYMAN ["brian wilson"] Posted: 06 Nov 2008 07:38 PM CST
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| Re: dookie [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 06 Nov 2008 05:23 PM CST Luther! That was great. | ||
| Re: Brian Wilson State Theater Minneapolis question(s)... [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 06 Nov 2008 05:22 PM CST The State is not near the airport: the airport is in a southern suburb and the State is in downtown. You can take the light rail train from the airport, it's probably about a 30 minute ride. Otherwise you could drive or get a cab and it would be closer to 20 minutes. Sadly, downtown doesn't have any great music stores anymore since the wonderful Let It Be closed. The best one in town is just south of downtown, Electric Fetus, on Franklin Ave. and 4th Ave S. | ||
| Re: Postcard From California [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 06 Nov 2008 05:22 PM CST No, I wasn't aware. But who complains, the die-hard fans like those of us who post here? I don't remember reports of protests outside the O2 arena this year, or at Live8 in 05. I'll be at the RFH when The Beach Boys perform SMILE in its entirety in June 2009!  | ||
| Re: Postcard From California [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 06 Nov 2008 05:13 PM CST Look at The Who, Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd... no-one complained/complains when these guys reform despite their toll. Was that meant as ironic, or are you just not aware that a lot of people complain? | ||
| Re: Steve Hoffman to remaster \ [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 06 Nov 2008 04:29 PM CST The cool thing about the DCC (and this upcoming release) is that it is as close to the master tape prepared by Chuck and Brian as you can get - NO EQ was applied, this is how the Pet Sounds master would sound if you were in the control room listening to the final mix on the master with Brian. And were using the same studio speakers. And the master tape is now gone, so there won't be another mastering of the tape. Mark Linett has vigorously debated the claim that Hoffman's remaster used no EQ. Steve has admitted on his board that you can "shape" the sound of a recording being mastered through tube equipment without using EQ, by swapping out different brands of tubes in the equipment (referred to as "tube rolling"). For instance, Telefunken tubes could introduce a slightly different bass, midrange and treble presence into the mastering than RCA tubes or Sovtek tubes, etc. That allows you to maintain a direct equipment chain in mastering, but still tweak the sound. Lee | ||
| Re: The Definitive Vocal Credits Thread... [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 06 Nov 2008 03:03 PM CST ... I knew it was Clint all along... | ||
| BEACH BOYS BRIAN WILSON WHITE VINYL CHRISTMAS 45 wPS ["brian wilson"] Posted: 06 Nov 2008 02:57 PM CST
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| Re: Postcard From California [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 06 Nov 2008 01:52 PM CST Even if this wasn't happening, there's still been a "Beach Boys" schlepping Be True To Your School around the world for the last so many decades; it ain't gonna make Mike and Bruce stop. In that case, I'd rather have a Beach Boys consisting of Brian Wilson, Mike Love, Alan Jardine, David Marks and Bruce Johnston. THAT is what I suspect I've felt for a while without realising it. Very good post. I think most folk agree that the Beach Boys ended when Carl died but time has past and it's no longer unusual for a band as long in the tooth as the Beach Boys to have had one or more members pass away. Look at The Who, Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd... no-one complained/complains when these guys reform despite their toll. Get Brian back in The Beach Boys and their reunion would be valid too. I'd still love for Ricky and Blondie to be there as well but that's a personal preference. I liked the rock-style of the early 70s BBs and would hate for Brian to head-up a "California Fun Fun Fun Around" that does litle more that Mike and Bruce have been doing, and indeed Brian himself occasionally gets away with. | ||
| Re: Van Dyke Parks [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 06 Nov 2008 12:31 PM CST true | ||
| Re: If you could bring a dead rock star back to life [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 06 Nov 2008 12:18 PM CST Lucky! I saw them in 2006 and that was great as well. Loud gig, but expected. I think I was the only one of 5 people dancing the whole time. It was a lot of fun! So who sings Mary Hansen's parts now? One of the guys in the band? Or does Laetitia Sadier have superpowers which allow her to sing two vocal parts at once? | ||
| Re: Stereolab [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 06 Nov 2008 12:16 PM CST I think Carl Wilson should've sang BG on one of Stereolab's more loungy-sounding songs. | ||
| Re: Postcard From California [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 06 Nov 2008 12:10 PM CST maybe al will turn this into a beach boys album? | ||
| "BRIAN WILSON" RARE! Original CANDID SNAPSHOT 4x6 ["brian wilson"] Posted: 06 Nov 2008 10:29 AM CST |
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