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Re: Need help for trip to LA [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 13 May 2008 05:40 AM CDT

A couple of years ago I asked a similar question and got a lot of answers! Check it out if you want...

http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,1346.0.html

Re: Need help for trip to LA [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 13 May 2008 04:56 AM CDT

and you MUST go visit the Beach Boys historical landmark thingy in Hawthorne

Re: Unreleased Sunflower Outtakes [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 13 May 2008 04:24 AM CDT

Quote from: TimeToGetAlone on May 12, 2008, 08:18:45 PM

Would he have been Carl's brother-in-law in 1970?

Carl married Annie Hinsche early in 1966

EDIT: Just checked the exact date (February 3)

Re: Unreleased Sunflower Outtakes [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 13 May 2008 04:07 AM CDT

Quote from: brianc on May 12, 2008, 07:16:42 PM

I'm sure the one I came across was no Awake though.

"Awake" was, like, an old Americana song by Floyd Tucker or someone like that. Brian did a solo vocal version of it in 1970, then Spring covered it a year later for the b-side of the single "Now That Everything's Been Said," both of which appeared on the 1972 Spring album. I think the lyrics are different, and Brian's 1970 version has a catatrophic falsetto vocal.

Whether that could be considered a "Sunflower" outtake, I don't know. I thought it was more of a demo.

Actually to me Brian sounds great on it. I think it was cut in 1971 along with Silly Walls.

Re: \ [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 13 May 2008 04:01 AM CDT

The album had three sleeves. The best one is a cool close up of Dennis ironic because he is not on it. It's a great album really, Don't Go Near the Water IS better then the LP version. It kicks kind of like Do It Again.

My new album! [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 13 May 2008 03:34 AM CDT

Hello
Just to say that I have a new album out 'The Rise and Fall of Responsibillity'! Its available through my myspace site - http://www.myspace.com/brigadiermusic - and on CD Baby (where there are some reviews, nice ones too!) - http://cdbaby.com/cd/thebrigadier3
itunes to follow soon!
Cheers
Matt

Re: Your Early Influences [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 13 May 2008 03:34 AM CDT

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The song that first made me aware of the power of music, and how great it can be was Eddie Cochran's "C'mon Everybody".

"Something Else" by Cochran had a similar effect on me. I recently aquired a 50's box set called 'Loud Fast and Out of Control - The Wild Sounds of 50's Rock' I'm not crazy about the title or the cartoonish artwork but the musical content is great as is the sound quality! There are 3 Cochran songs and there are multiple songs by his close buddys Johnny Burnette and Gene Vincent. Incidently when Burnette moved out to L.A. he lived nearby Eddie in Bell Gardens. Cochran's home (his parent's home) was, I believe, razed for a freeway (the 605) just as the Wilson's would be. His memorial plaque, near the entrance of Forest Lawn Cypress, has his image and that of his orange, single cutaway, Chet Atkins, 6120 Gretsch on it.

Re: Unreleased Sunflower Outtakes [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 13 May 2008 12:58 AM CDT

Also, remember that Billy was allegedly going to replace Bruce when Jack Rieley took over.

Re: The Beach Boys [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 13 May 2008 12:55 AM CDT

Quote from: Aegir on August 08, 2006, 02:40:32 PM

Brian's falsetto on Getcha Back is just so.. weird. I can't explain it; it just doesn't sit with me well.

Some time ago someone posted on some of these boards that it was actually Jeff Foskett doing the falsetto part.

Re: \ [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 13 May 2008 12:50 AM CDT

Quote from: SMiLE-Holland on May 12, 2008, 10:54:01 AM

Quote from: erikdavid5000 on May 12, 2008, 09:43:46 AM

I wonder why they took the title of my post away?

We didn't. This happens with every post in which ones uses ( " ). When one replies, the written text after that symbol disappears. Must be a small error in the software or something.

And $1,50 for that album is a bargain! Great find. I assume you got LBWL as a freebee then? Grin

Heck no! LBWL was $7.50 well spent!

Dennis tracks from POB/Bambu period not on the POB reissue...? [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 12 May 2008 11:38 PM CDT

In browsing Dan Addington's excellent (albeit a bit dated) Dennis site, the music page caught my eye particularly. I had not seen the page in a while, and the speculation over many of the "new" songs on the reissue makes me wonder.

Here is a list of the songs that are or might be from Dennis' Caribou period, roughly 1975 (his signing year) to 1979, not on the reissue.

Our Love Remains (1975)
Grateful Are We For Little Children (1975)
Mona Kanau (1975 - possibly a re-recorded version with the lyrics)
Marble Sittin' at the Kitchen Table (1975)
Don't Want Much, Just a Country or Two, Maybe a Planet Before It's Through (1975)
Helen Keller (1975)
Slow Blues (1975)
Barnyard Blues (1975)
Life Symphony (1976)
Flowers Come in the Spring (1976)
10,000 Years (1976, 1977)
End of the Show (1977 - second version)
I Didn't Mean to Make You Cry (1977)
I Don't Know (1977)
Takin' Off (1977)
Thoughts of a Girl (1977)
Rock 'n' Roll (1977)
Here Comes The Sun (1977)
Oh Darling (1977)
Fever (1977)
Crying (1977)
Beautiful Play (1977)
My Love's Comin' Down (1977)
Down in Mexico (1977)
My Love Lives On (1977)
Something New (1977)
Merry Christmas (1977)
Something New (1978 – second version)
Let Me Out Of Here (1978)
I Gotta Get Out of Her Seat (1978)
Shu-ru Bop (1978)
La Plena de Amor (1978)
All Alone (1979 – second version)

The first six songs listed and Life Symphony are Dennis/Steve Kalinich songs. Some work was done on these tracks, and Steve Kalinich mentioned a rough backing track for Life Symphony which Dennis never finished. AGD mentions that Grateful Are We For Little Children is the origin of a riff used by Brian in Saturday Morning In The City. Mona Kanau existed back in 1968 as a backing track. If the lyrics were done in '68 or '75, I don't know.

Slow Blues is on a tape with Holy Man.

Barnyard Blues was on a tape with an early track of Angel Come Home and Everyone's In Love With You; perhaps this was a Beach Boys recording.

Flowers Come In The Spring is like Only With You on the reissue – 1976 Dennis doing an older song he wrote.

10,000 Years is a Dennis/Mike Love song, one of Dennis' submissions for 15 Big Ones. A backing track is circulating on bootlegs, but I am unsure if this is the Beach Boys version, since apparently Dennis cut another two versions during 1977. The circulating track most likely is a Dennis recording, since it has almost no similarities to anything on 15 Big Ones.

Second version of End of the Show….who knows?

I Didn't Mean To Make You Cry….again, who knows…unless it's on the reissue under a different title. Another title going around for this song is "Worry".

I Don't Know MIGHT be the same as My Love's Comin' Down, which recently began going around. Again, it must just be Dennis putting a name on a tape.

Takin' Off…who knows?

Thoughts Of A Girl…this one seems like it could be the "Piano Variations…" on the reissue.

Rock 'n Roll….who knows? Brad Elliott thinks it might be What's Wrong or Friday Night.

Here Comes The Sun….apparently done for the Sgt. Pepper film soundtrack.

Oh Darling….who knows?

Fever….who knows?

Crying….who knows?

Beautiful Play….who knows?

Down In Mexico….maybe it's Mexico under a different name, but apparently documentation for this title exists.

My Love Lives On….hmmm, similar title to My Love's Comin' Down, which is part of Love Remember Me. Maybe this is Love Remember Me.

Something New….who knows?

Merry Christmas…who knows?

Let Me Out Of Here….who knows?

I Gotta Get Out Of Her Seat…who knows?

Shu-ru Bop and La Plena de Amor are both Carli Munoz recordings, for some reason they're on Bambu tapes.

All Alone's second version is (I think) on boots, if we're talking an electric piano version that's going around on many Dennis compilations.

Do these tracks exist on tape, or are they lost? If they do exist are they being held for possibly another release?

Re: Need help for trip to LA [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 12 May 2008 10:43 PM CDT

Off the top of my head, his house from the late sixties- where he had some notorious guests- was at 14400 Sunset Blvd., pretty near the ocean, on the south side of the street, across from Will Rogers Park. Very easy to find. I'm sure you can find Marina Del Rey easily, if inclined. Part of W. 119th Street should still be there, in Hawthorne, and the Foster's Freeze is nearby on Hawthorne Blvd. (Right? It's been a while). And Hawthorne High, Go Cougars, is another easy one in that area...anyone know where the Professional School was where he and Carl finished up?

Need help for trip to LA [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 12 May 2008 10:14 PM CDT

Am heading back out to LA in 3 weeks and need info and addresses of where Dennis hung out and lived. Will be going to Chez Jay's for a toast to him for the upcoming re-release of POB and would also like to go by his Wavecrest place in Venice but don't know the address. I lent my "The Real Beach Boy" book to a fellow fan and haven't got it back yet, so am strapped for help. Does anyone remember his address near Will Rogers park? The Brothers Studio address? etc., etc.,etc.,? Huh

? I would greatly appreciate any help and if anyone out there lives in LA and is interested in meeting up at Jay's for a toast to Dennis, let me know. I'm planning on going there on June 7th for lunch. I don't bite!!!!! Thanks so much guys!!!
Donna

Re: hey people u should check out Keaton Simons [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 12 May 2008 09:05 PM CDT

You people aren't real. These accounts only exist for you to post about bands who you work for or something. Someone delete this thread. Sickening.

Re: New song: Caitlin's On the Beach [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 12 May 2008 08:42 PM CDT

Thanks, Luther!

I have a lot of fun making music (most of the time) and try to let some of that playfulness show up in the songs.

Re: New song: Caitlin's On the Beach [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 12 May 2008 08:34 PM CDT

I had watched your video earlier, but am just listening to the myspace tunes. I love "The Girls Upstairs." Your lyrics are funny, and I am enjoying the melodies and production.

Re: Really Really Weird video [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 12 May 2008 08:27 PM CDT

Thanks, guys!

Re: New song: Caitlin's On the Beach [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 12 May 2008 08:27 PM CDT

Quote from: warnakey on May 09, 2008, 05:38:15 AM

hey there simple!

I still really love that song really really weird!

Thanks, but that's on another thread!

Glad to hear you like that other song, though!

Re: \ [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 12 May 2008 08:24 PM CDT

The entire show circulates. Great, great show. Some people have complained that this show and others of the era are too slow, loose & "hippie" sounding, but that was the vibe at the time. It's great to kick back with a cold one (beer or rum & coke does it for me) and get into the spirit of these early '70s shows!

David Marks' Memories [Smiley Smile Dot Net]

Posted: 12 May 2008 08:19 PM CDT

David Marks shares his Beach Boys memories with the Sun News.

Playing guitar and singing on the first few Beach Boys albums in the early 1960s as a young teen, David Marks didn't know just how big a wave the group would ride.

"None of us had a clue," he said by phone last week from home in eastern New York. "We were kind of just having fun."

Marks credited the songwriting, band management, Capitol Records and "the hunger America had" for Beach Boys music for making it stand out for multiple generations.

Marks will perform Saturday afternoon as part of the The Legends of Surf Music with Al Jardine, a founding member of the Beach Boys, and Dean Torrence of Jan & Dean at Mayfest on Main in North Myrtle Beach.

Marks brought up the joy of seeing audience members in their 70s as well as young children sing the lyrics of Beach Boy hits such as "Surfer Girl," "Catch a Wave" and "In My Room."

His favorite Beach Boys song to play live in the Legends band remains "Surfin' U.S.A."

"The energy in that song kind of defines the Beach Boys' identity," he said of memories still fresh from those early years with Mike Love, Jardine and brothers Brian, Carl and Dennis Wilson. "Today I find the same thing."

When group leader Brian Wilson stopped touring with the band to focus on songwriting, Marks played second guitar. Later, his solo career also would include projects with Gary Busey and the late Warren Zevon.

Last year, Virgin Books released "The Lost Beach Boy: The True Story of David Marks, one of the founding members of the Beach Boys," which Marks co-authored with Jon Stebbins.

Marks said researching material for three years produced many revelations for him.

"Carrie, my wife, did a lot of date checking," he said. "We found a journal ... where my father had managed the group on the road for a Midwest tour."

Marks said he spent part of his life blocking out those times, "but I kept in touch with the guys."

He said pouring his thoughts into print about the band's genesis, he remembered the camaraderie shared. "We were really close," Marks said.

Someone's remark that he and the late Carl Wilson had an influence on other young guitarists made Marks' day recently.

"To have made a contribution like that," Marks said, "and to have the honor to play those great songs with those guys, it's a big, huge honor."

Re: Unreleased Sunflower Outtakes [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 12 May 2008 08:18 PM CDT

Quote from: brianc on May 12, 2008, 07:09:33 PM

Also, Billy Hinsche would not have been too young, at that time. I don't know his bio that well, but I know that in 1965, DD&B were a go-go/folk-rock act in Hollywood, playing clubs throughout the area. They were written up in tons and tons of teen music magazines.

Billy was also Carl Wilson's brother-in-law, so there was the early Beach Boys connection. Not sure when he joined the touring band, but I remember Billy telling me that he was invited to go to Holland with the band in 1972. The co-write with Brian from 1970 is a valid piece of info from the internet.

I believe it was Billy you were talking about, right?

Hmm yeah I was aware the song was released after the fact. At the time I just saw it as something related to Sunflower so I naturally assumed it was something never released. If I had known it wasn't a Beach Boys recording I probably wuldn't have mentioned it. The birth date I had would have made him 19 at this time, which in the BB scheme of things is manageable. I only knew of him from years a little later however. Would he have been Carl's brother-in-law in 1970?

Quote from: John on May 12, 2008, 08:04:37 PM

Just an addendum to my earlier post: My Solution, was, I believe, recorded October 31, 1970.

I do find it interesting how this one is pretty much all by itself in between the conscious efforts for albums. I haven't heard it so I don't know what to expect.

Wilson Brightens Rain Forest Concert [Smiley Smile Dot Net]

Posted: 12 May 2008 08:18 PM CDT

Apparently Brian Wilson was a big hit at the recent Rainforest concert.

At the twentieth anniversary "Rainforest" show, held at Carnegie Hall Thursday night, the usual star suspects – Sting, Billy Joel and James Taylor - turned out to croon. But the evening found a clear highlight in a section devoted to the summery West Coast music of guest star Brian Wilson.

Coming towards the close of this long, slow, and often aimless night, Wilson provided some needed animation and helped redeem much of what came before.

But the show didn't kick into high gear until Wilson and his band came out to bat out 8 undying hits. From the sumptuous chords of "God Only Knows" (with Sting taking some verses) to the creamy pep of "Fun Fun Fun" (with James Taylor adding his own touches), Wilson's songs provided a model of complex harmonics spun into blissful pop. You could make fun of the middle-aged stars twisting along to these songs like drunken uncles at the wedding. Or you could carp about the tossed-off feel of the rest of the night. But hey, it's a benefit show meant to generate good will and big bucks not to floor you with inspiration. And at those modest goals, it succeeded.

PACIFIC OCEAN BLUE Returns On Gatefold Triple LP [Smiley Smile Dot Net]

Posted: 12 May 2008 08:08 PM CDT

"Everything that I am or will ever be is in the music. If you want to know me, just listen." - Dennis Wilson

Arrives in stores June 17, 2008, on CD from Caribou/Epic/Legacy and a gatefold triple LP edition from Sundazed Music

Much is made of his older brother Brian's tortured genius, but Beach Boys drummer Dennis Wilson had his own deeply artistic statement to make-one he made with moody, heartrending beauty and fathomless, soulful introspection on his 1977 masterpiece, Pacific Ocean Blue. Besides being the first solo album by a member of the Beach Boys, Pacific Ocean Blue is a lost classic of '70s West Coast rock, a richly orchestrated opus that swaths the singer-songwriter's delicate and profoundly personal observations in epic, wide-screen arrangements that easily match the drama of the celluloid blockbusters made in his Hollywood back yard.

Awash in studio strings and layered, breathy melodies, the piano-sprinkled balladry of tracks like "Thoughts of You" and "End of the Show" offer glimpses of a more tender, wounded, and never-before-seen side of this most famously free-spirited Beach Boys member; while such ecology-themed meditations as "River Song" (which boasts flashes of hard rock) and the title cut reflect other topics close to the drummer's heart. But despite the album's more serious subject matter, the Beach Boys' good-time pop is still firmly on deck with the horn-pumping R&B of "What's Wrong" and the sunshine lilt of "Rainbows." No wonder Brian Wilson himself is one of Pacific Ocean Blue's biggest fans.

Sundazed's stunning three-LP edition of this unheralded landmark comes in a lavishly illustrated triple-gatefold sleeve housing a newly mastered version of the original album along with two additional LPs containing Dennis Wilson's absolute finest unreleased solo work, including the fascinating material he recorded for Pacific Ocean Blue's intended follow-up, Bambu-all pressed on gorgeous, high-definition, "Pacific Ocean blue" vinyl. A cult classic that's truly worthy of this sumptuous and magnificent-sounding package, this is one wave no Beach Boys fan will want to miss.

Dennis Wilson - Pacific Ocean Blue Sundazed 3-LP Deluxe Edition

LP One: The original Pacific Ocean Blue album

Side 1
1. River Song (3:44)
2. What's Wrong (2:23)
3. Moonshine (2:27)
4. Friday Night (3:10)
5. Dreamer (4:23)
6. Thoughts Of You (3:04)

Side 2
1. Time (3:32)
2. You And I (3:25)
3. Pacific Ocean Blues (2:37)
4. Farewell My Friend (2:26)
5. Rainbows (2:48)
6. End Of The Show (2:57)

LP Two: Pacific Ocean Blue bonus tracks (Side 3) and Bambu - The Caribou
Sessions (Side 4)

Side 3
1. Tug Of Love (3:44)
2. Only With You (3:57)
3. Holy Man (Instrumental) (4:24)
4. Mexico (5:13)
5. Holy Man (Taylor Hawkins Version) (4:25)

Side 4
1. Under The Moonlight (3:55)
2. It's Not Too Late (4:32)
3. School Girl (2:31)
4. Love Remember Me (4:04)
5. Love Surrounds Me (3:40)

LP Three: Bambu -The Caribou Sessions

Side 5
1. Wild Situation (2:41)
2. Common (3:34)
3. Are You Real (3:38)
4. He's A Bum (2:50)
5. Cocktails (3:00)
6. I Love You (2:02)

Side 6
1. Constant Companion (3:22)
2. Time For Bed (3:07)
3. Album Tag Song (3:45)
4. All Alone (3:44)
5. Piano Variations On Thoughts Of You (3:03)

Re: Unreleased Sunflower Outtakes [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 12 May 2008 08:04 PM CDT

Just an addendum to my earlier post: My Solution, was, I believe, recorded October 31, 1970.

Re: Essays and other information for the Smile Shop [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 12 May 2008 08:02 PM CDT

Quote from: brianc on April 07, 2008, 03:18:45 PM

Thanks so much for this. You have done an incredible job of keeping the Smile Shop legacy alive. I am just floored at the Jack Rieley interviews, having spent almost a decade of my life chasing the music made during the era that he worked with the Wilson brothers.

The best part of the Smile Shop was all of these characters, none more flawed than myself, but all so earnest with the discovery of Smile's quirkiness and beauty. I'm so thankful that it has been preserved, as that period was a lot of fun.

Thank you!