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| Re: Pet Sounds photo shoot... [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 25 May 2008 06:51 AM CDT Yes, please scan & post - I'd love to check it out. | ||
| Re: Great article on Dennis [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 25 May 2008 03:57 AM CDT | ||
| Re: Great article on Dennis [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 25 May 2008 02:58 AM CDT That was a nice read. And I'm certainly looking forward to 6/16 so I can pick up a copy of POB... When does Brian's TLOS come out? | ||
| Re: a SMiLE question or 3 [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 25 May 2008 02:06 AM CDT O the subject of Great Shape: a thought which occurred to me last night - There's a Brian mix of various Heroes sections starting with Gee - I presume it's what he was doing for H&V part 2 - the b-side to the Heroes single (imo, but it's the most feasible assumption I think). It's very similar to Linnett's Heroes sections mix on the GV box, accept it misses the False Barnyard tag, and dum dum bit before the tag. Anyway, my point is you can hear that the swedish frog section has been physically chopped out of the mix. This always makes me wonder why he spliced it out, and the only logical conclusion was that he wanted to use Swedish Frog somewhere else, but where? Well if Great Shape, by the time of the hand written list given to Capitol, had become it's own track, then the Swedish Frog section with it's barnyard chant feel would be a perfect addition to the track. It might have started with Great shape as we know (eggs & grits etc.) running into Swedish Frog, and finishing with Barnyard as a fade. Barnyard following Swedish Frog works really well as it's very similar in tempo to the Heroes section that follows it in Mark Linnett's mix. This version of Great shape becomes a sort of Barnyard suite, with 3 definite barnyard themed pieces put together - maybe the Barnyard suite that Brian(?) described later on, was actually Great shape with various barnyard bits following it. I'm going to try this in my mix anyway! | ||
| Stone Temple Pilots: Reunited (and it feels so good...) [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 25 May 2008 12:30 AM CDT Anybody else going to any shows by the reunited STP? I'll be going to the June 28 show at the Woodlands... | ||
| Re: a SMiLE question or 3 [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 25 May 2008 12:16 AM CDT Perhaps the running order advised by Domenic Priore in the 2nd edition of "Look Listen Vibrate Smile" is closer to what a 1960's "Smile" would have been like. If anybody has time, would they kindly post Domenic's order. Thanks.... SIDE ONE: Heroes And Villians/Do You Dig Worms/You Are My Sunshine/Wonderful/Child Is Father To The Man/ Our Prayer/Cabinessence SIDE TWO: Good Vibrations/ (The Elements)-Vegetables-Wind Chimes-Mrs. O'Leary's Cow-Cool Cool Water/Surf's Up Thanks, AvanTodd....I gotta digest that list/sequence a little bit.... | ||
| Re: a SMiLE question or 3 [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 24 May 2008 11:20 PM CDT On an old, old, OLD fan mix I made years back (2002 or so), I ended with TOMP/YAMS, with the "false Barnyard" fade. It sort of gave the album a sense of closure. The lineup was this: Our Prayer/You're Welcome Tones Do You Like Worms? Heroes and Villains Themes (the sections mix on the box set from the Bicycle Rider theme to right before the "false Barnyard" tag) All Day Look Wonderful Child Is Father Of The Man I'm In Great Shape Cabinessence The Elements: Vega-Tables Holidays Wind Chimes Mrs. O'Leary's Cow I Wanna Be Around/Friday Night I Love To Say Da Da Good Vibrations Surf's Up Heroes and Villains Barnyard The Old Master Painter/You Are My Sunshine (with "false Barnyard" tag) | ||
| Re: a SMiLE question or 3 [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 24 May 2008 11:02 PM CDT Perhaps the running order advised by Domenic Priore in the 2nd edition of "Look Listen Vibrate Smile" is closer to what a 1960's "Smile" would have been like. If anybody has time, would they kindly post Domenic's order. Thanks.... SIDE ONE: Heroes And Villians/Do You Dig Worms/You Are My Sunshine/Wonderful/Child Is Father To The Man/ Our Prayer/Cabinessence SIDE TWO: Good Vibrations/ (The Elements)-Vegetables-Wind Chimes-Mrs. O'Leary's Cow-Cool Cool Water/Surf's Up [sic] One of the vinyl bootlegs uses this same track list on the first LP. So which came first, the chicken or the egg? | ||
| Re: Pet Sounds photo shoot... [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 24 May 2008 08:59 PM CDT post | ||
| Re: a SMiLE question or 3 [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 24 May 2008 08:00 PM CDT Perhaps the running order advised by Domenic Priore in the 2nd edition of "Look Listen Vibrate Smile" is closer to what a 1960's "Smile" would have been like. If anybody has time, would they kindly post Domenic's order. Thanks.... | ||
| Re: a SMiLE question or 3 [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 24 May 2008 07:25 PM CDT Obviously,if released on vinyl in 1966 or 1967, Smile's running order would have had to be different,edited & shorter,due to the time constraints of vinyl(a vinyl L.P. can hold 22 minutes per side before the volume level must be compromised), but I'm sure,given the mediocre quality of Capitol's pressings in the 1960's,and the limited quality of the typical teenager's phonographs in those days,that Capitol would have been reluctant(a fear of skipping) to go much past 18 minutes per side. The two sides of a vinyl record would have precluded the 3 movement concept that Brian Wilson used on BWPS. Perhaps the running order advised by Domenic Priore in the 2nd edition of "Look Listen Vibrate Smile" is closer to what a 1960's "Smile" would have been like. | ||
| Re: New Book Alert! \ [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 24 May 2008 06:41 PM CDT Sounds good. Will check it out. Thanks! http://www.amazon.com/When-Get-Surf-City-Friendship/dp/0312375298 | ||
| Re: selling Beach Boys rarities... [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 24 May 2008 03:58 PM CDT I'm holding out for one of Murry's eyeballs in a velvetine box.  | ||
| New Book Alert! "When We Get To Surf City" By Bob Greene [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 24 May 2008 02:50 PM CDT I happened across a book last night that's only been out a week. It's "When We Get To Surf City" by the noted columnist and author Bob Greene. Beginning in the early '90s Bob Greene was a sideman every summer for Jan & Dean. This book recounts his travels with J & D and the opening acts. He played with them for 15 summers. I just today picked up a copy at Barnes and Noble and have only skimmed it. Looks like an wonderful read, with many stories about the players who played for J & D and the Beach Boys. You may want to check it out. Hardcover, 340 pages | ||
| BRIAN WILSON PRESENTS SMILE *NEW DVD* ["brian wilson"] Posted: 24 May 2008 01:59 PM CDT
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| Re: a SMiLE question or 3 [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 24 May 2008 01:31 PM CDT We assume it's mislabelled, but who knows - possibly FN/IWBA was considered by Brian as a section of I'm in Great Shape back then. I thought the label was "Friday Night (I'm in great Shape)" - the parentheses indicating FN was part of the larger Shape track? Vosse did say that Surf's Up was talked about as the end of the album, with a coda that was a "chorale" vocals only piece that when described sounds like Prayer but was not identical to Prayer, because at the time of the interview 20/20 was out and Vosse had heard it (he comments on Cabinessence being released and how it was originally planned to be different on Smile) - so he would have mentioned that the track Prayer would have closed the album. To me it seems he's describing a reprise to Prayer or something similar. I've been putting the final "Amen" of the Lord's Prayer at the end of my Smile mix to duplicate what he's talking about, but I just thought of something. There's a Brian mix of the Smile Prayer that has the next to last vocal section edited out. Could he have done that to place that section at the end? That's a really good point that Our Prayer was actually on 20/20 at the time, and that Vosse surely would have called it Our Prayer in the article - I hadn't thought of that. Maybe as you suggest Brian planned a reprise of Our Prayer to close the album. Also (I'm sure others have suggested this), maybe the coda to Surf's Up would have been a chorale thing similar to Our Prayer - it certainly has a similar descending notes thing to Our Prayer, and the way he sings the wordless aahhs on the demo, it almost could be a reprise of Our Prayer - of course the coda to the 72 version kind of undermines that theory, if you believe that's how Brian intended it in 66, but of course Vosse hadn't heard the 72 version at this point so he could have been describing the actual coda to Surf's Up. That Vosse article just makes you wish the interviewer had pressed him a bit more at the time. Like: "Wow, a two part a and b side H&V! Can you remember exactly what sections were in parts 1 and 2?!" Actually, didn't Vosse turn up and answer loads of questions on the old Smile shop about this article? Did anyone ask him if he could remember what bits the long H&V had in it? Is that thread still archived anywhere? | ||
| Re: Sessions with Dennis after 1980 [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 24 May 2008 01:27 PM CDT I'm confused. Is this a version of Oh Lord that's different from what is being called the "Cocaine Tapes"? The version of Oh Lord on the Cocaine Tapes is the only one I've ever heard. I'd be intrigued to know if there was another one. I tend to think there were possibly two other versions: The Winter 1983 issue of "Add Some Music" had this to report: "Despite Brian's poor health there has been word of his continued songwriting. In the studio last year he made some demos with old friend/collaborator Bob Norberg. One visitor to Brian's house last fall was treated to a tape of two new compositions, one a rocker entitled 'Oh Lord'." Elsewhere in that issue, Brad Elliott writes "Brian was recording with Bob Norberg (of Bob & Sheri fame) during the fall of 1982. Chuck Britz engineered. The familiar crew of studio musicians was used. No titles are known". This seems to imply that a recording of "Oh Lord" was made separate from the Norberg sessions, but possibly of similar studio demo quality. However, since "Oh Lord" is described as a "rocker", we can assume either (a) a more uptempo arrangement than that on the "Cocaine" tape was attempted, or (b) the "visitor to Brian's house" had this song confused with the other new one he or she heard (possibly "City Blues"), which means the source could indeed have been the "Cocaine" tape. The other version, which is verifiable, was cut in London with Steve Levine in 1984. I've never heard if vocals were attempted, but I tend to doubt it. | ||
| J/L " Beach Boys" - Little Deuce Coupe 1/64 Car & CD ["beach boys"] Posted: 24 May 2008 12:00 PM CDT | ||
| BARENAKED LADIES CD SINGLE - BRIAN WILSON 2000 - MINT ["brian wilson"] Posted: 23 May 2008 02:29 PM CDT |
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