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Posted: 21 May 2008 06:24 AM CDT

I was just wondering, apparently Brian produced versions of songs that he, Usher and Christian wrote for the movie, but according to Brad Elliott, these versions weren't included on the album, so someone else had to cut new versions for the soundtrack. So my question is, is there any place (besides the movie) where you can hear Brian & Usher's original productions?

Re: 10,000 Years (Ago) [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 21 May 2008 05:19 AM CDT

I was jujst going by on what Jon suggested: "This is directly from tape research done by Alan Boyd and passed on to the producers of the new package for their reference...as well as to me for liner perspective...(thanks Alan) 1975/76 "Dennis had finished a three-part backing track titled 10,000 Years (lyrics were supposedly written by Mike Love) but the song was shelved in favor of new Brian Wilson material." But maybe it wouldn't have been finished. Your right, songs (and they sound kind of ambitious, in that early 70s manner) by Mike from this era have been mentioned in the research; perhaps Al was confusing 10,000 Years with another track.

Re: 10,000 Years (Ago) [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 21 May 2008 03:38 AM CDT

Hearing Mike's version it's good until the chanting at the end. It has a slightly Pacific Ocean Blue (the song) vibe to it, the music seems a lot like what Dennis was doing.

Re: 10,000 Years (Ago) [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 21 May 2008 03:16 AM CDT

Quote from: salman rushdie on Today at 03:01:31 AM

Was ML writing much music in 75-76? I can understand if Al meant he'd written a set of lyrics that DW didn't like. Still makes me wonder what kind of credits would be on the Lovester's version if it had been released officially.

And the other thing that makes this interesting is that this is one of two DW/ML tracks (the other being POB) that could feasibly have appeared on the follow-up to Holland... but both would've been horribly out of place on 15 BO!

To answer your first question, there's a song from 1975, at least a title, Our Life, Our Love, Our Land, written by Mike alone. He also did a song with Carl, also in '75, called Don't Let Me Go. I don't know if recordings for these exist.

As far as Dennis cutting a track for 10,000 Years, I don't think one would have been ready for 15 Big Ones. This is just a guess, but my theory is that the circulating track for 10,000 Years might be from late 1976, early 1977, during POB sessions.

Re: 10,000 Years (Ago) [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 21 May 2008 03:11 AM CDT

Quote from: salman rushdie on Today at 03:08:46 AM

People will debate the meaning of that underscore for 37 years.

Re: 10,000 Years (Ago) [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 21 May 2008 03:08 AM CDT

Re: 10,000 Years (Ago) [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 21 May 2008 03:04 AM CDT

Quote from: SurfRiderHawaii on May 20, 2008, 08:37:20 PM

I'm not Alan, but I'm quite sure that the BB organization has nothing to do with Mike releasing Mike Love Not War. That's his own trip, and no record label wants to take it.

Re: 10,000 Years (Ago) [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 21 May 2008 03:01 AM CDT

"According to Al Jardine the song, correctly titled '10,000 Years Ago', was written by Mike, but Dennis did his own arrangement of the song with new lyrical and musical contributions. Dennis cut a track, but Mike didn't like it."
Would DW have used a ML-written tune as part of his own song? Is this Al's faulty memory. As Alan said on another thread:
"Symphony from 1974 morphed into 10,000 Years (another trilogy) which later got reworked and became the album intro which later was the foundation for Friday Night...."

Was ML writing much music in 75-76? I can understand if Al meant he'd written a set of lyrics that DW didn't like. Still makes me wonder what kind of credits would be on the Lovester's version if it had been released officially.

And the other thing that makes this interesting is that this is one of two DW/ML tracks (the other being POB) that could feasibly have appeared on the follow-up to Holland... but both would've been horribly out of place on 15 BO!

Re: Dennis tracks from POB/Bambu period not on the POB reissue...? [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 21 May 2008 01:10 AM CDT

Does Dennis' mix of POB exist on tape?

Re: The Official BB You Tube Thread [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 20 May 2008 11:02 PM CDT

Behind The Sounds: Don't Talk:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjjSaziIIP0&fmt=18

Re: 10,000 Years (Ago) [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 20 May 2008 08:37 PM CDT

Seems Mike doesn't talk much at all about his latest solo endeavour. Be interesting to hear his take on the track and it's evolution.

Alan - Do you hear any talk about Mike getting "Mike Love Not War" released?

PS- Great/fantastic to see you back posting on the board Alan Boyd!!!!!!!!!! I picked up 'Channel Surfing' last year and loved it!!!!

Re: 10,000 Years (Ago) [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 20 May 2008 08:19 PM CDT

To shed some further illumination on the history of this song, I'll quote Brad Elliott from the Summer '82 issue of Add Some Music:

"According to Al Jardine the song, correctly titled '10,000 Years Ago', was written by Mike, but Dennis did his own arrangement of the song with new lyrical and musical contributions. Dennis cut a track, but Mike didn't like it."

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Re: 10,000 Years (Ago) [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 20 May 2008 06:49 PM CDT

No, it's a different track.

Re: 10,000 Years (Ago) [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 20 May 2008 06:45 PM CDT

Whoa! Is "I Don't Know" the same "I Don't Know" that Dennis cut in 1967, during the SMILE sessions?

Thanks for all of the boss info Alan. You rocked this one!