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| Re: The Definitive Vocal Credits Thread... [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 16 May 2008 06:49 AM CDT Ah thanks, I never knew that before. | ||
| Re: Beach Boys Tape Library Picture [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 16 May 2008 06:21 AM CDT The tape on the far right of the bottom shelf, next to "Brian / Dumb Angel", appears to be "Wouldn't It Be Nice"... | ||
| Re: Unreleased Sunflower Outtakes [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 16 May 2008 06:18 AM CDT Never mind - I went and looked it up on the handy "Gigs and Session" page for 1969. Nice resource, indeed! Feb 1969.... same session as "Celebrate The News." Hmmm. That 8 track reel (which we haven't yet pulled) has two leadered takes on it, but they might be the first and second generation masters of "Celebrate The News." Hmmmm.... There's also a session on May 24 1969... um, I think I might have made a typo for Feb 24, but there's definitely an AFM sheet for 5/24/69 AFM sheets in my archives include: Celebrate The News - Sunset Sound 2/24/69 (two sessions that day) Celebrate The News - Sunset Sound 2/25/69 Celebrate The News - Sunset Sound 3/3/69 What Can The Matter Be - Valentine Recorders, 5/24/69 Musicians on this last session were Carl Wilson, Dennis Wilson, Alan Jardine, Bruce Johnston, Mike Love, Roger Neumann (a woodwind player), and contractor Jon Parks. The absence of Brian MAY indicate that this was a song written & produced by one of the other Beach Boys...although Brian's absence from the AFM sheet does not guarantee his absence from the session, as other AFM sheets & session tapes prove... | ||
| Re: The Definitive Vocal Credits Thread... [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 16 May 2008 04:34 AM CDT "Omnes" is latin for "all", or "everybody"  | ||
| Re: The Definitive Vocal Credits Thread... [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 16 May 2008 03:30 AM CDT Read through it all again who is this Omnes on Somewhere Near Japan. | ||
| Re: Need help for trip to LA [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 16 May 2008 03:17 AM CDT Quote I would recommend the Crenshaw District, and especially, Leimert Park. For the best in Free-Jazz and Spiritual Jazz, can't beat the World Stage. That's a great recommendation. Close by The Wich Stand, and the Love's Mt. Vernon and Fairway home. The World Stage was founded by the late legendaey jazz drummer Billy Higgins. Higgins played in Ornette Colemans original group and with many other jazz greats over the years such as Dexter Gordon, Joe Henderson, Thelonius Monk, Hervie Hancock, etc. Shortly before his 2001 death he recorded an album with Charles Lloyd. He founded the World Stage to encourage and promote younger jazz musicians. It provides workshops in performance and writing, as well as concerts and recordings. He was a great guy with an infectous smile and attitude. | ||
| Re: Need help for trip to LA [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 16 May 2008 03:16 AM CDT The Pioneer chicken between Highland + FAIRFAX.. on SUNSET is STILL there.. South side of the street... A nother name now.. Tiny Naylors drive in... Highland + Sunset..LONG GONE...!!... Burritto place..Sunset + Alvarado ..STIll there.. Still a hang out for good fast food...Open all nite..!!!... Holiday Inn West Hollywood.. On sunset ..Still there..!!... Hollywood high school..Highland..Between Hollywood Blvd + Sunset ..Still There...Buy some BB Books.. Cruise neighbourhoods.. Between. Highland + La Cienga.. Melrose + beverly + Anything in Between...!! Jewish Hoods Back then.. Visit... Santa Monica.. Malibu.. Manhattan.. Hermosa. Redondo..Sunset..Venice.... Laguna.. Hunnington..Newport ...Dana Point,,,Carlsbad... Ventura...Santa Barbara.....BEACHES...!!..The motorcycle + car tracks that Dennis visited are gone...For car hookups... Irwindale raceway... 605 fwy between 210 + 60 Fwy... same kinda deal.....Also Hemet track..Sprint cars...Nude beaches.. Visit blacks beach San Diego CA...Old BB studio was on 5th street Santa Monica...Anaheim stadium was were the BB played in front 50-70 thousand people.. Left CRACKS in stadium... Stadium BOUNCED like a RUBBER ball... Anaheim was NEVER the SAME...!!!San Berdo swing is still there in the orange show parking lot... They have mickey mouse nascar there SaT nite...!!! | ||
| Re: Need help for trip to LA [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 16 May 2008 02:56 AM CDT Quote my favorite site was the Santa Monica pier - home of Palisades Park and the site of many song lyrics and the young Beach Boys crew growing up I believe... Wrong coast. Palisades Park Amusement Park was located in New Jersey; near Englewood Cliffs I believe. However, Pacific Ocean Park was just south of there at the end of Navy Street in Venice. I understand that the Wilson's and likely Mike, Al, and David went to POP so there is likely generic influence. POP, which I visited, was cool. Most of it was over the ocean on a large pier. They had a great roller coaster. I actually rode that thing 47 times in one day. You can see the closed-down park in the last t.v. episode of 'The Fugitive'. It is where David Jansson finally catches up with the "One-armed Man". Also at the end of Navy Street in the mid to late 60's was the Cheetah nightclub. The Doors and many other famous bands played there. | ||
| Re: Help Me with Smile! (not asking for downloads) [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 16 May 2008 02:39 AM CDT On the American band video.. When they talk about the "AIR " section of SMILE... There is a piano piece.. Without vocals.. It is IMPLIED it is a part of the "AIR" section of Smile.. | ||
| Re: Need help for trip to LA [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 16 May 2008 01:17 AM CDT I would chill out man...I stayed in Inglewood last year when I went to see the David Marks book launch show and it was fine, at all hours of the day. I even walked around and took the bus in the neighborhood and I didn't feel that it was nearly as dangerous as its made out to be. And I am Canadian! Ha, ha... What does Pyongang have in common with Inglewood and Hawthorne, btw? And since this is a post about L.A., my favorite site was the Santa Monica pier - home of Palisades Park and the site of many song lyrics and the young Beach Boys crew growing up I believe... | ||
| 2008 Bowman BRIAN WILSON Signs Future AUTOGRAPH ["brian wilson"] Posted: 16 May 2008 12:41 AM CDT | ||
| Re: Need help for trip to LA [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 16 May 2008 12:15 AM CDT I gotcha... always enjoy reading yer posts Luther, you often have great insights and never short on telling it like it is...  . I'm a huge fan of Don't Be a Menace to South Central While Drinking Your Juice in the Hood, which is a movie that pokes fun of the whole thing. I kind of follow that trail of humor towards life in general... with that in mind I got to say that fear is big business and big reality too- there are neighborhoods where I live that I am not welcome in. That's reality. In this country I would no sooner be walking around the 'hood at 2 in the morning than be driving around the backwoods of Kentucky at 2 in the afternoon with New York license plates. That's just the way it is and I'm cool with that. Still, political correctness has run so amok that God forbid somebody say something that could even remotely be construed as rascist then BLAMO- they get branded a rascist. This is not in reference to aeijtzsche's post, it's just something that bother's me immensely. Especially when there are some severe double standards in our country. I do hear that Pyongang is just delightful in early spring... | ||
| Re: Joke Of The Day [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 16 May 2008 12:14 AM CDT JEEZ..ill make it more weird.. Theres is no way i could compile a list without breaking the styles of music down... I couldnt mix Jazz ..Blues ..Country..Pop..And rock + all its other divisions..On one list..I couldnt mix..jeff beck ..Larry carlton..Miles davis..with albert Collins ..BB King..Beach Boys..Kinks Who..garth Brooks..Alan Jackson...ETC ETC..... Id have a list for every style of music.. 10 desert Island disks for each style of music...LOL...!!!! | ||
| Re: Unreleased Sunflower Outtakes [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 16 May 2008 12:00 AM CDT Haha, it would be neat to have resources like that to go by. Is "Where I She?" as much of a mystery as WCtMB? Nope - the version i heard sounded like a roughly edited demo, Brian solo. I understand there's a more realised version as well. | ||
| Re: Unreleased Sunflower Outtakes [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 15 May 2008 11:57 PM CDT Never mind - I went and looked it up on the handy "Gigs and Session" page for 1969. Nice resource, indeed! Feb 1969.... same session as "Celebrate The News." Hmmm. That 8 track reel (which we haven't yet pulled) has two leadered takes on it, but they might be the first and second generation masters of "Celebrate The News." Hmmmm.... There's also a session on May 24 1969... um, I think I might have made a typo for Feb 24, but there's definitely an AFM sheet for 5/24/69 | ||
| Re: Alternate Universe Beach Boys: What if David never quit? [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 15 May 2008 11:28 PM CDT No, I don't think that Blondie was their guitar hero at all. I'm not that sure if that many people mentally even "got" that Blondie was more of a fronting member than, say, Billy was. The people hip to what they were doing were, but I doubt the lay man even knew his name. I don't necessarily think that having/needing a guitar hero was "shallow" in '71, '72, '73 etc... It was part of the times and an absolute cornerstone of the genre that the band was trying hard to fit in with (e.g. "Rhonda" c. 72) The Terry Kath reference kinda excludes shallowness because it only earmarks QUALITY. He was brilliant. The Beach Boys never had that. They could play complex piano chords on an Epiphone 12-string, but the times were very far and few in between that Carl ever played a blistering solo that continued to evolve and break musical boundaries on stage. That's not a knock, that's just the deal. Although the BB's were a kick ass live act, to many they were only and always considered a "singing group." Having an ORIGINAL member -- David -- be both cool AND a virtuoso would've absolutely made a difference within their fan base, and be reflected in their live shows, and eventual airplay. Don't you think??? I do. I love Al Jardine with all my being, but I've yet to catch anyone playing air guitar to his bar chords. | ||
| Re: Live in Las Vegas 1995 [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 15 May 2008 11:14 PM CDT Would this have been one of the last "significant" times Brian played/sang with the band? Did he play the entire show? | ||
| Re: Alternate Universe Beach Boys: What if David never quit? [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 15 May 2008 10:49 PM CDT David Marks staying on and the Beach Boys expanding into a full-time six piece with Al in late '63 is something I often think about. Wasn't Blondie pretty much their early 70s "guitar hero"? But what I think about EVEN MORE than that is David in the band post-'71, prior to and including the Blondie era. David would've given the band the AOR FM-friendly guitarist hero that the band never had -- a huge defecit that's never mentioned when discussing the band's lack of FM credibility/success. (They had the congas the beards and captain's hats -- no guitar hero...) Simply put, David would've been their Terry Kath. That said, he and Dennis would've both been long dead by '76. And were people that shallow that having a lot of guitar solos in someone's music would be the determining factor as to whether a group got a lot of airplay or not? | ||
| Re: Unreleased Sunflower Outtakes [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 15 May 2008 10:25 PM CDT Haha, it would be neat to have resources like that to go by. Is "Where I She?" as much of a mystery as WCtMB? | ||
| Re: Spector on 'I Dream of Jeanie' [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 15 May 2008 09:44 PM CDT I saw this one on Nick at Nite when I was a kid, I thought they were calling Boyce and Hart "the Boys to Heart" the first time I saw it. I bet if Tivo or VCRs had been around in the 60s Brian would've set the timer to record that episode just because Spector was on it. | ||
| 2008 BOWMAN BRIAN WILSON RC S.O.T.F. AUTO AUTOGRAPH ["brian wilson"] Posted: 15 May 2008 09:35 PM CDT | ||
| Re: Need help for trip to LA [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 15 May 2008 07:10 PM CDT There's another Californian lie that was propagated, too. I don't think the images we get through music ought to be taken to be reality, either the good or the bad. There's both everywhere. By the way, my comment wasn't meant to knock you particularly. It was just a reaction to/agreement with H. | ||
| Re: Need help for trip to LA [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 15 May 2008 07:00 PM CDT When was the last time you heard someone say, "I hear South Central Los Angeles is nice this time of year." I know it's dry, but it was meant as a joke. Honestly though, in the early 90's I heard more rap songs about gang-bangin' in South Central and Compton than I care to even remember. How can you blame somebody for thinking that the area is filled with violence? Dudes made small fortunes selling that image. The only BB related places I would really like to see one in LA is Laurel Way and Bellagio. Mostly Laurel Way. | ||
| Re: Alternate Universe Beach Boys: What if David never quit? [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 15 May 2008 06:44 PM CDT David Marks staying on and the Beach Boys expanding into a full-time six piece with Al in late '63 is something I often think about. But what I think about EVEN MORE than that is David in the band post-'71, prior to and including the Blondie era. David would've given the band the AOR FM-friendly guitarist hero that the band never had -- a huge defecit that's never mentioned when discussing the band's lack of FM credibility/success. (They had the congas the beards and captain's hats -- no guitar hero...) Simply put, David would've been their Terry Kath. That said, he and Dennis would've both been long dead by '76. | ||
| Re: Dennis tracks from POB/Bambu period not on the POB reissue...? [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 15 May 2008 05:55 PM CDT Time For Bed was kinda redone for the LA sessions, but a sliver of San Miguel (the modulations at the end of the verses just before "lookin for the ladies of love") was incorporated, and it became part 2 of Mexico.... which is actually a trilogy... no vocals recorded... part 1 is on the new album, part 3 is a bluesy slowed down version of the part 2 progression.... OK, so I went back to the boot and listened, and I was wrong about the two versions of what's called "New Orleans" being the same track at different speeds and different overdubs. "Version One" has the San Miguel-esque modulations Alan speaks of, but "Version Two" does not. "Version Two" DOES seem to be slowed down (playing with tape speeds was a favorite in-studio trick of Dennis'), but it's a different track than "Version One". So..."Version One" would have been Part Two of the "Mexico" trilogy, and "Version Two" would have been Part Three?? And the track for the "Time For Bed" that's on the upcoming release - when was that recorded ('77 or '78)? | ||
| Re: POB-Bambu on eBay, for those who really can't wait [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 15 May 2008 05:42 PM CDT I predict this will get shut down within 24 hours. Yep...bidding has ended, with 0 bids.  | ||
| Re: Need help for trip to LA [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 15 May 2008 05:00 PM CDT What does racism have to do with fear of visiting South Central? Are you assuming that anyone who is afraid of visiting South Central is a racist? Please elaborate.... It has quite a lot to do with it, but I'm certainly making no such assumptions. It's just a topic of interest to me. It does bother me that every time a thread about visiting LA comes up that somebody inevitably mentions how dangerous Hawthorne or Inglewood is. It's usually from people that haven't spent a lot of time there. And in my opinion, and "danger" in those areas comes from the reaction to the apartheid that can happen when people are afraid to visit the area. That's not a dig at anybody in particular, like I said, negatively self-perpetuating anthropological systems are just an interesting topic to me. | ||
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