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| BEACH BOYS BRIAN WILSON/ANDEY PALEY RECORDINGS ["brian wilson"] Posted: 01 Jun 2008 06:18 AM CDT
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| Re: Big Bag of Vegetables 9-disk set??? [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 01 Jun 2008 03:17 AM CDT It is almost certain that there are acetates in existence that contain material that has not been booted. I don't think many unheard vocals could be found on acetates, but the final version of "Wind Chimes" would be realistic for example. The mix Michael Vosse talked about in 1969. I know the boxset version is supposed to be finished, but according to Vosse there were little music box overdubs on the piano part, mixed with different echos. Brian's musical arrangement of wind chimes tingling in the rough wind. Would love to hear that. | ||
| Re: Sessions with Dennis after 1980 [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 01 Jun 2008 03:13 AM CDT Yes, but it just 2 seconds long. How is the 96 version of Sweetie? | ||
| Re: Please help me with \ [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 01 Jun 2008 02:01 AM CDT Here'a a preview of Tom Bahler singing the title track from Carnival of Sound . . . which will be on our forthcoming Jan Berry tribute album. Tom (Monkees, Partridge Family, etc.) sang lead on the original version in 1968, and reprises that role here, for our project: http://www.myspace.com/jananddeantribute | ||
| Re: Banjo or Uke on A Thing or Two? [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 01 Jun 2008 01:47 AM CDT Thanks for the info everyone. I listened again and I guess it's just how the strings were plucked. | ||
| Re: Is Dick Rising a real person? [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 01 Jun 2008 12:47 AM CDT Yes, there actually was a European Capitol-EMI promotions man by the name of Dick Reising. He was known for his ability to create interest in forthcoming (no pun intended) Capitol-EMI releases (no pun intended), but his promotional efforts often seemed to fall short (no pun intended) once a record had actually hit the streets and needed the necessary promotional follow through. As a result, he was replaced by Capitol-EMI promotions man Big Dick Thrustin. | ||
| Handwritten lyrics [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 01 Jun 2008 12:37 AM CDT I know this may be pretty trivial but does anyone know if any handwritten lyrics/music still exist for any Beach Boys songs (or songs written by one of the boys) Obviously there is the hand written lyrics to Surf City. But is there anything else that still exists? I was just wondering cause you always hear about things like handwritten John Lennon lyrics (eg: Give Peace A Chance, Nowhere Man etc..) | ||
| 2008 Topps Series 2 Brian Wilson 397 Gold # 80/2008 ["brian wilson"] Posted: 31 May 2008 09:53 PM CDT | ||
| Re: New Guy [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 31 May 2008 09:38 PM CDT Is that a reference to the post on the yellow board? | ||
| Re: a SMiLE question or 3 [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 31 May 2008 08:55 PM CDT The blues scat bit. Although the other mentioned bit is also cool, we have it in pretty good quality. Ok, that's what I thought. Yeah I'd like to hear that in good quality as well | ||
| Re: a SMiLE question or 3 [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 31 May 2008 08:52 PM CDT The blues scat bit. Although the other mentioned bit is also cool, we have it in pretty good quality. | ||
| Re: a SMiLE question or 3 [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 31 May 2008 08:51 PM CDT Regarding CWTL, don't you wish we had a good version of the a cappella bit on the WAYYYYYYY old Smile boots? That part's so cool. Are you talking about the piece where they're doing a blues scat or the group vox of "Miss you darlin?" | ||
| Miles Davis [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 31 May 2008 08:43 PM CDT We NEED a Miles thread here... Seriously, how many jawdropping moments does this guy have on record? I could count them on about a thousand hands. From the trailblazing Birth of the Cool to the slinky 'Round About Midnight to the bombast of Porgy And Bess to the modality of Kind Of Blue, to the fusion of In A Silent Way, to the jazz-hop of Doo-Bop, Miles did it all. My favourite performer in the genre by far. Let's make it happen, folks. | ||
| Re: a SMiLE question or 3 [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 31 May 2008 08:40 PM CDT Regarding CWTL, don't you wish we had a good version of the a cappella bit on the WAYYYYYYY old Smile boots? That part's so cool. | ||
| Re: a SMiLE question or 3 [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 31 May 2008 08:35 PM CDT interesting stuff...! back to SMiLE: i'm wondering how much of "Can't Wait Too Long" dates back to SMiLE. i'm pretty sure the instrumental bit at the end with bass, drums and organ was SMiLE-era, but how about the verses, etc? that ending is heard on the 2-fer version but not on the boxset for some reason... it's great. i also think it's a real shame that the H&V fade (aka false Barnyard) was left off BWPS. I thought CWTL started after SMiLE? I too though, love that ending. Wonder why the GV set left it off? I raised the question about "Can't Wait Too Long" in the past ('cause I wasn't sure whether or not to put it on a SMiLE mix), and I could get no concrete evidence that it started during the 1966-67 SMiLE sessions. I still occasionally put that a capella CWTL snippet from the Hawthorne CD on a mix. I like it somewhere around "Wind Chimes", or right before "Surf's Up". One time I used it as an intro to "Heroes And Villains" Regarding the long version of CWTL being left off the boxed set, I always thought they were trying to give us something new (the alternate, shorter mix), figuring most who bought the box already had the 2-fer with the long version. No? | ||
| Re: a SMiLE question or 3 [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 31 May 2008 07:24 PM CDT interesting stuff...! back to SMiLE: i'm wondering how much of "Can't Wait Too Long" dates back to SMiLE. i'm pretty sure the instrumental bit at the end with bass, drums and organ was SMiLE-era, but how about the verses, etc? that ending is heard on the 2-fer version but not on the boxset for some reason... it's great. i also think it's a real shame that the H&V fade (aka false Barnyard) was left off BWPS. I thought CWTL started after SMiLE? I too though, love that ending. Wonder why the GV set left it off? | ||
| Re: New Guy [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 31 May 2008 06:55 PM CDT Credit where credit's due....GREAT HANDLE! | ||
| Jerry Cole 1939-2008 [Smiley Smile Dot Net] Posted: 31 May 2008 06:41 PM CDT Jerry Cole of the Wrecking Crew has passed away.
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| 4 NEW CD'S MODERN ROCK (BEACH BOYS, BRIAN WILSON, DA) ["brian wilson"] Posted: 31 May 2008 05:43 PM CDT | ||
| Re: Jerry Cole has passed away [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 31 May 2008 05:34 PM CDT Yeah, Jerry recorded with the Beach Boys plenty of times after Pet Sounds... Interesting, I just realized that Jerry was pretty young compared to some of the other Wrecking Crewers, He would have only been 25-26 circa Pet Sounds...so playing across from Barney Kessel who was in his 40s must've been great fun and a great education. He would have been more of a peer to Brian. | ||
| Re: Banjo or Uke on A Thing or Two? [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 31 May 2008 05:31 PM CDT The only string instruments I hear in either the verses or refrains are guitars and bass. Well, and I guess piano is a string instrument. But no, no banjo or uke that I hear. Same hear (pun intended). There is a subtle acoustic subtleness to the guitars in the choruses, and that may be what you're hearing. That's just the natrual acoustic sound of the strings coming through. Thirded. | ||
| BRIAN WILSON-PROMO PRESS KIT 24 PG.BIO,PHOTO,NOTEBOOK ["brian wilson"] Posted: 31 May 2008 05:01 PM CDT
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| BRIAN WILSON PROMO INTERVIEW-MINT CONDITION-NEW ["brian wilson"] Posted: 31 May 2008 04:53 PM CDT
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| Re: Is Dick Rising a real person? [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 31 May 2008 04:34 PM CDT my dad's best friend is Dick Burns. but seriously, i thought Dick Reising was an actual Capitol guy. That's my understanding as well. I'd have to dig to find my source for that though. | ||
| Re: Big Bag of Vegetables 9-disk set??? [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 31 May 2008 04:22 PM CDT On the official Beach Boys box set that had the five or six 'SMiLE' releases on it, does anybody recall where the middle section of DYLW came from? It's where the 'Bicycle Rider' section would have gone, except this section sounds slightly warped (I think it sounds almost like a mellotron with Brian chanting over it-'oom dada'). I seem to recall someone saying it came from a box that had different little bits on it, but I can't recall what it was-doesn anybody know? The "Warped" section is a mastering defect by Capitol, which causes the tape to drag(I.E. slow down) at 2 places. | ||
| Re: Is Dick Rising a real person? [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 31 May 2008 04:18 PM CDT my dad's best friend is Dick Burns. but seriously, i thought Dick Reising was an actual Capitol guy. | ||
| Re: a SMiLE question or 3 [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 31 May 2008 04:14 PM CDT interesting stuff...! back to SMiLE: i'm wondering how much of "Can't Wait Too Long" dates back to SMiLE. i'm pretty sure the instrumental bit at the end with bass, drums and organ was SMiLE-era, but how about the verses, etc? that ending is heard on the 2-fer version but not on the boxset for some reason... it's great. i also think it's a real shame that the H&V fade (aka false Barnyard) was left off BWPS. | ||
| Re: Jan [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 31 May 2008 04:07 PM CDT The masters for Carnival of Sound are owned by Warner Bros. , so I would expect that to be a Rhino Handmade release (unless they decide to farm it out). I read Bob Greene's "Surf City" book in one sitting . . . and for what it is, I found it enjoyable. And I've told Bob as much. But what is it? . . . It's a memoir of a high-profile columnist and writer (himself tainted by personal scandal) who played weekend and summer gigs with Jan & Dean, beginning in 1992. The book does contain a certain amount of pro-Dean Torrence propaganda . . . but I was also pleased to see Bob strike a measure of balance, acknowledging Jan & Dean's personal conflicts . . . which helps temper the "Dean as a long-sufffering daddy to a brain-damaged Jan" rhetoric. See, the problem is . . . neither Bob Greene, nor his longer-serving "bandmates" in the J&D touring pantheon, knew Jan Berry before his accident. And Bob acknowledges this fact in the book, in a way that's meaningful. These are people -- to a man, aside from Dean Torrence -- who only knew Jan as a cripple . . . often to be made fun of . . . or to be praised condescendingly for his perseverance. Like : "Awwwww . . . the poor guy. Good for him." For the most part, these people have no idea who Jan Berry was before his accident. So as usual, this gives us the company-signed songwriter and producer . . . (that would be Jan) . . . as seen through that lens, while also being filtered through the spin of Dean Torrence (himself bitter about his past relationship with Jan). And Dean was these peoples' boss in the touring operation . . . and so that's where all of their loyalties and biases fall . . . to the guy who signed their paychecks. In their live shows . . . they now play maybe four Jan & Dean songs . . . and the rest are Beach Boys songs, and tunes by other artists. I don't see any malice here, on the part of the band members . . . I just think it's a severe lack of knowledge and insight on the part of people who were hired to play for Jan & Dean since 1978. And they wouldn't know any better . . . because Dean is the guy who could speak normally, putting his own spin on things, and who was paying the band. Plus, Jan frustrated the hell out of everyone . . . so it was a volatile mix, at all times. M. Thanks for the insight, that actually helps make a lot more sense of the later J&D era...the only person I've talked to about Jan Berry is Phil Sloan and he spoke very highly of him. Something to the effect of 'Jan was an extremely talented and hardworking producer/songwriter/singer and was a pleasure to work with. When you listen to the records he was cutting, you can tell how much hard work, passion and soul went into them' but I am just paraphrasing. Jan, in my mind, was an arrangement master and seemed like a very smart guy. After all, he was going to UCLA while making music and that takes a lot of talent and discipline. His arrangements started getting more and more intricate imo after he started the UCLA classes...up until the accident that is. But I still think songs like Mother Earth, Fun City, etc... are pretty fantastic in their own right, they just are different from J&D in their prime. Didn't know they didn't play many J&D songs live anymore, I thought something was fishy though when they came to town billed as ''Jan & Dean: featuring Dean Torrence & the Surf City All Stars" or whatever...I didn't really understand how it could be Jan & Dean ft. Dean, haha, anyways I'm rambling. Thanks for your views, as always. ~B | ||
| Re: Is Dick Rising a real person? [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 31 May 2008 03:18 PM CDT As an antidote to Dick Reising, I know a guy named Richard Wilt....but he doesn't go by "Dick".  | ||
| Re: New Guy [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 31 May 2008 02:18 PM CDT Welcome on board! Hope you'll have a great time here. |
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