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| Re: POB Enters UK Album Chart at.... [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 23 Jun 2008 06:06 AM CDT I'd say: Justice........at last! | ||
| Re: Singles box online ad [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 23 Jun 2008 05:51 AM CDT Mike needs to realize that every Beach Boys loving geek on the planet would drop whatever rediculous amount he cared to charge for something like that. Your sweeping assumption that Mike has any say (or indeed, interest) in the marketing and pricing of the band's back catalog is the funniest thing I've read for a long time.  | ||
| Re: Bad news re POB/Sony Germany [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 23 Jun 2008 05:16 AM CDT That's what I'm hoping. While I've been a BB fan long enough to not expect the same attention as current acts, I have always maintained the delusion that a CD is made available to buy. If Sony are so disinterested in plugging the CD, why go to all the trouble of video interviews, video clips and a leased vinyl? Someone has a slightly warped view of too much expenditure on a "dead-end product" so to speak. Heck and the execs scratch their scalps trying to work out why pirating is so rife when the legit CD is no-where to be found. | ||
| Re: Dennis Wilson - Holy Man Video [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 23 Jun 2008 04:58 AM CDT Just watched this on youtube. Even though I know, part of me kept thinking, what has Taylor got to do with this song? Great job and fantastic choice to whoever thought of him. | ||
| Re: Singles box online ad [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 23 Jun 2008 04:20 AM CDT I've read that the whole aesthetic they are going for is so you can feel like you are listening to each single like in the good old days, one song at a time. Seems like kind of a brave move considering the state of record sales lately and at the ease with which one can now process music in the digital age, but even so, I wouldn't buy it either way. For $100+ or whatever I figure you are probably better off tracking down lots of the original 45s with picture sleeves | ||
| Re: Singles box online ad [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 23 Jun 2008 04:06 AM CDT Can anyone else imagine a box like that but full of discs of various live shows with a hardbound book full or rare live photos and notes? Mike needs to realize that every Beach Boys loving geek on the planet would drop whatever rediculous amount he cared to charge for something like that. And there would be enough hit songs on the thing to intice a good amount of "the masses" as well. | ||
| Re: Bad news re POB/Sony Germany [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 23 Jun 2008 03:23 AM CDT Well - hopefully the fact that it has just hit Top 20 in the UK charts will make some folk sit up and take note ! | ||
| Re: POB Bambu on Vinyl! [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 23 Jun 2008 02:47 AM CDT Beach Boys geeks are truly a sarcastic lot. ....but we have a great taste in music and are geniunely genuine, like Brian Wilson.... I know, I know.... | ||
| A Tribute To Brian Wilson (2007, DVD) New Sealed ["brian wilson"] Posted: 23 Jun 2008 01:14 AM CDT | ||
| Re: POB Bambu on Vinyl! [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 23 Jun 2008 12:21 AM CDT It should be out in a few days. To my ears the 1977 LP sounds very good, I think the mastering problem was mainly on the CBS release in 1991 that was very limited vinyl and cd. If I had known how limited it was I would have bought that version too. | ||
| Re: POB Bambu on Vinyl! [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 22 Jun 2008 11:59 PM CDT Odd joke...since Capitol has ZERO to do with the POB/Bambu release it is a stretch. But anyway...I did get to hold in my hands an advance copy of the Sundazed three LP Blue vinyl POB/Bambu set and it is absolutely SPECTACULAR!!! Truly beautiful...and heavy. I suggest everyone order one, find one, get one...they are so damn cool. This might be a dumb question, but how does the POB re-release vinyl sound compared to original POB vinyl? And does the vinyl POB/Bambu sound the same as the CD? I might be repeating myself somewhere...it's late haha Thanks!  | ||
| Re: The Mark Linett Thread [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 22 Jun 2008 11:29 PM CDT Quote "Girl Don't Tell Me" had several live during mixdown overdubs on the original mono mix. A matching stereo mix isn't possible. Quote So you don't mind all the missing original guitar parts after the solo? I don't mind at all. They're still there in the mono. I think the producers of these things have been clear from the beginning: the new remixes are just a different way of presenting the canon versions. To me, it's not about replicating anything, it's about hearing it in a new way. For instance, on She Knows Me, hearing the vocals separated out really spoke to me. The clarity of Mike's voice, in particular was very moving. Quote so why aren't the vocals spread out to stereo in this new mix? Was this purely a mixing choice on your part, or were there elements missing that made such a mix impossible? Same question for the remix of All Summer Long on the recent WOTS comp. I'm clearly not Mark, but since he's lurking quietly as of late, I'll put forth my two cents. All Summer Long and When I Grow Up are similar in terms of what's on the tape to mix from. They both have the basic, an instrumental OD, and then the vocal overdubs. It's not that much to work with, really. So the remixer has a choice. One can split the voices out wide and leave a narrower mix of the track, or swap that arrangement. I don't think alternating track vox track vox would work, balance-wise. So in those cases, Mark chose to leave the vocals narrower and present the track wider. While I would have loved to hear the WIGU vocals wide (I'll leave that for the stereo vocal only version? Pretty please!?) this way you get to hear some other cool things split, like Al's precise double-tracked fender bass. You hear how the hi-hat was an OD and not part of Dennis original part on the traps. You know, it's just a choice that Mark has to make with each new situation. Quote why, whenever he mixes down any previously unreleased 1960's Beach Boys live recordings, he always mixes them down in mono or near-mono,even though they're 3-track & 4-track recordings, some of which have already been bootlegged in stereo. Not sure what boots you're referring to, but according to my notes, the live stuff up through the 4-track era tended to pretty much be one track for all the vocals, one for the instruments, and one for crowd noise. Later, like at the Michigan State shows, they gave the drums a track. That's not the kind of set-up that I would spread wide. Separating the vocals and the instruments would sounds strange, like a bad Beatles stereo mix. I think you almost have to put the vocals and instruments close in the center. But unless you have two tracks of audience, you don't want to put that wide either because then it sounds unbalanced. The track lineup just lends itself to a narrow mix if you're going for a somewhat normal sounding mix. If you want to isolate things just to hear them, then yeah, you could spread them out, and maybe the boots do that. But imo a pro mix working with that kind of track layout has to be narrow. Just my .02. | ||
| Re: My POB/Bambu deluxe CD [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 22 Jun 2008 09:21 PM CDT to show how i feel, i will quote what Carl Wilson said on An American Family: "when you listen to it, how could you not want to be apart of this?" i know Carl was on Bambu, but seriously, this album blows pretty much anything the beach boys ever put out post Holland. possibly best solo album. | ||
| Re: Bad news re POB/Sony Germany [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 22 Jun 2008 09:01 PM CDT  wow, we get something before the UK? noway, that never happens | ||
| Hal Blaine On PACIFIC OCEAN BLUE [Smiley Smile Dot Net] Posted: 22 Jun 2008 08:29 PM CDT Hal Blaine discusses what it was like to work with Dennis Wilson on PACIFIC OCEAN BLUE.
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| Re: Bad news re POB/Sony Germany [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 22 Jun 2008 07:54 PM CDT Does anyone in the know have a possible expolanation? It's a reissue of a little-known album that never sold well to begin with. Sony is not going to invest in a wide release of album no one has heard of. I'm not knocking the album itself; it's just the nature of the business. The fact that it got re-released at all is noteworthy. You should be able to find it online. | ||
| Re: My Latest Essay: POB [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 22 Jun 2008 07:50 PM CDT Great stuff, c-man! Thanks a ton for doing that essay...and I'll sure be looking forward to your 'Bambu' essay! | ||
| Re: Dennis Wilson merchandise [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 22 Jun 2008 06:46 PM CDT I"m with elnombre; those designs are uninspired. Too bad; they'll probably sell a bunch, but they could have sold a bunch MORE if they had something interesting. | ||
| Re: I didn't want to piss on his Picasso...Taylor Hawkins [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 22 Jun 2008 05:56 PM CDT And this from Hal Blaine. nostalgic drift to Pacific Ocean Blue Beach Boys: Praise for Dennis Wilson and a '77 album Tom Harrison, Staff Reporter Published: Sunday, June 22, 2008 This morning, Hal Blaine's thoughts aren't on Pacific Ocean Blue. They're on The Wrecking Crew, an independently made film by the son of the late guitarist Tommy Tedesco and named after The Wrecking Crew, an assembly of Los Angeles session musicians to which Blaine was central. Tedesco also was part of the Wrecking Crew along with Joe Osborne, Leon Russell and Glenn Campbell and others who played on countless hits notched by Phil Spector, the Mamas and Papas, Johnny Rivers, The Monkees, Nancy Sinatra and the Beach Boys. Seeing the film in Hollywood the night before has left Blaine nostalgic for when the record labels were giants, session work was plentiful, the mood was inducive to creativity and age hadn't taken its toll on the Wrecking Crew. The '60s and '70s were an amazing time," he notes with a detectable trace of sadness. "The labels were gigantic; now, they're all closing down." Blaine is credited with playing drums on 5,061 songs. When Dennis Wilson asked him in 1977 to play on what became Pacific Ocean Blue, the first solo album by a Beach Boy must have been just another session to him. After all, Blaine had drummed on many Beach Boys songs before and so being asked to drum on Dennis's album wasn't unusual. Although Wilson was the Beach Boys' nominal drummer, and played drums in their live appearances, Blaine had more finesse and worked faster in the studio. "Dennis was rarely around when we were making Beach Boys records," Blaine remembers. "He was the only surfer in The Beach Boys . He loved the ocean, he loved his motorcycles, he loved racing. So, he loved having me drum." Pacific Ocean Blue has grown to be such a legend that Sony/BMG reissued the record this week with additional tracks amounting to a second disc that includes what would have been Wilson's next solo album, Bambu. A powerful track such as "River Song" or the emotional vulnerability Wilson displays wasn't expected of someone who always was in the shadow of older brother Brian, The Beach Boys' writer and producer. Yet Dennis had been emerging as an affecting writer and his album was proof. "It was different," Blaine recalls the sessions. "This one was much more sophisticated. Dennis was very sophisticated unknown to many people. To them, he was the ultimate Beach Boy. But he was a pianist as well and he had a feeling." Although the rawness of Pacific Ocean Blue was a surprise, it wasn't to Blaine. "I had known Dennis for a lot of years before we did Pacific Ocean Blue," the drummer says. "We had our boats side by side at Marina del Rey. So, I was very comfortable doing the sessions." Before he died, age 39, in 1983, Dennis Wilson was alcoholic, drug-addicted, and forever tainted by a brief association with Charles Manson. Pacific Ocean Blue is the legacy that suggests there was a soul much more complex than the bare facts might indicate. "He was a very nice man," Blaine volunteers. "A lot of people don't know how generous he could be." tharrison@png.canwest.com © The Vancouver Province 2008 | ||
| Re: Bad news re POB/Sony Germany [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 22 Jun 2008 05:13 PM CDT Having read all the responses I will have to reinforce that the online stores such as Amazon, CDWow and a few others do have it. I'm was more shocked that Saturn, who prides itself on having the world's biggest selection of CDs would neglect to have this CD. Considering they had the GV reissue, the Pet Sounds repackage, and the 50 variations of Kenbworth, no POB is unsettling. You'd think a CD with preorders would motivate someone in the same store to think perhaps more people would be interested. | ||
| Re: Bad news re POB/Sony Germany [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 22 Jun 2008 03:51 PM CDT Hey Dwight - back in your old home town I checked around in the month leading up to release if it was listed - nada - checked again a week before release and still nada. None of the majors have it listed and haven't bothered to check the brick and mortar as futility is not on my agenda. Just did another online check and still nothing except for good old Red Eye who have it on import and in stock and have it as their "Album of the Week". | ||
| Re: Bad news re POB/Sony Germany [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 22 Jun 2008 03:12 PM CDT I also live in a big Canadian city and I went to 4 stores to find the CD on the 17th with no avail, I was bummed, but quite frankly not surprised. So thank goodness for the internet and digital files to tide me over until my 3LP arrives  | ||
| Re: Dennis Wilson merchandise [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 22 Jun 2008 03:02 PM CDT I ordered both the black and the "chest" ones!!!!!! I'll sleep in the white one!!!!! | ||
| Re: My Latest Essay: POB [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 22 Jun 2008 02:59 PM CDT Sherriff, haven't you read Jon's book?  ? If not, I'll lend it to you..... | ||
| Re: Bad news re POB/Sony Germany [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 22 Jun 2008 02:35 PM CDT I live in a relatively big Canadian city, and yet NO one is carrying POB! But apparently TONS of people are asking the stores about the release date. That made me really happy to hear. | ||
| Re: Bad news re POB/Sony Germany [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 22 Jun 2008 02:16 PM CDT | ||
| Re: POB Enters UK Album Chart at.... [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 22 Jun 2008 02:15 PM CDT Great news. | ||
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