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Re: Tug of Love-- sounds like Wilco? [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 19 Jun 2008 06:45 AM CDT

Hmm. Either no one here is familiar with Wilco, or I'm imagining this similarity. Oh, well. Thought I'd bring it up.

Charles Lloyd [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 19 Jun 2008 04:31 AM CDT

Charles Lloyd (yes, the Charles Lloyd who played on Surf's Up, Holland, 15BO, MIU, etc) is coming to where I live in August, has anyone been to one of his shows? Should I go and see him? Huh

Re: The Era of the Wilsons [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 19 Jun 2008 02:01 AM CDT

Quote from: Mooger Fooger on June 18, 2008, 07:22:37 PM

I can't help but think:

Brian Wilson presents Smile: goes top 50 in Europe
Mike attempts lawsuit and looooooses big time

Top 10 in the UK.

Re: POB at 8 in UK [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 19 Jun 2008 01:57 AM CDT

Quote from: TonyW on June 18, 2008, 11:28:14 PM

So if POB is an album hit in the UK will there be more than just a few Cliff Richard fans amazed that Dennis did a cover of Cliff's "End Of The Show""??

Roll Eyes

yes ... note the rolling of the eyes Roll Eyes

http://youtube.com/watch?v=vVbaEV7nzlk

Don't go there... just... don't. I have a very dear friend who is a huge Cliff fan, and when I told her about Harry covering "EOTS", she wouldn't have it - said Cliff's version was the original. I showed her my copy of POB, waved the credits in her face, showed her the release dates... wouldn't have it. Dumb as this may seem, we didn't talk for over four months over this.

Re: The Mark Linett Thread [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 19 Jun 2008 01:34 AM CDT

I've got a question about the new mix of When I Grow Up (To Be A Man) on the singles box. There were two vocal overdubs for the song, so why aren't the vocals spread out to stereo in this new mix? Was this purely a mixing choice on your part, or were there elements missing that made such a mix impossible?

Same question for the remix of All Summer Long on the recent WOTS comp.

Re: POB at 8 in UK [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 19 Jun 2008 12:24 AM CDT

One of the worst in the long litany of missed Beach Boys opportunities. This is still a mystery. I'm very curious if a contemporary will ever shed some real light on exactly what happened there...Maybe someone who worked at the studio, like Trish Campo, might remember. Anybody recall who Dennis recruted for his band? The usual suspects? Ron Altbach and Dennis on keys? Bobby F on drums? Ed Carter on all stringed instruments simultaneously?

By the way, pretty cool that Dennis got motown groove-master Jamie Jamerson to play bass on POB and Bambu - note the last sentence of the short bio below:

Jamerson's discography at Motown reads as a catalog of soul hits of the 1960s and 1970s. His work includes Motown hits such as, among hundreds of others, "Shotgun" by Jr. Walker & the All Stars, "For Once in My Life, I Was Made To Love Her" by Stevie Wonder, "Going to a Go-Go" by The Miracles, "My Girl" by The Temptations, "Dancing in the Street" by Martha and the Vandellas, "I Heard It Through the Grapevine" by Gladys Knight and the Pips, and later by Marvin Gaye, and most of the album What's Going On by Marvin Gaye, "Reach Out I'll Be There" by The Four Tops, and "You Can't Hurry Love" by The Supremes.He is also credited with what many consider to be the finest bass lines ever recorded: "Bernadette" with the Four tops (Among other classic Motown hits claimed by Los Angeles bassist Carol Kaye), "You Keep Me Hangin' On" with The Supremes, and "Every Kinda People" with Robert Palmer. He is reported to have played on some 95% of Motown recordings between 1962 and 1968. He eventually performed on nearly 30 No. 1 pop hits -- surpassing the record commonly attributed to The Beatles. On the R&B charts, nearly 70 of his performances went to the top.

Jamerson is noted for expanding the role of the bass in popular music, which until that time largely consisted of root notes, fifths and simple repetitive patterns. By contrast, many of Jamerson's bass lines for Motown were more melodic, more syncopated, and more improvisational than had been heard before. His bass playing was considered an integral part of the "Motown Sound". He transcended the standard "bass line" and created a duet with the singer. Prominent bassists who have claimed Jamerson as a primary influence include John Entwistle, Jaco Pastorius, John Paul Jones, Billy Sheehan, and Paul McCartney.

Shortly after Motown moved their headquarters to Los Angeles, California in 1972, Jamerson moved there himself and found occasional studio work, but his relationship with Motown officially ended in 1973. He went on to perform on such 1970s hits as "Rock the Boat" (Hues Corporation), "Boogie Fever" (The Sylvers), and "You Don't Have To Be A Star (To Be In My Show)" (Marilyn McCoo and Billy Davis Jr.). But as other musicians went on to use high-tech amps, round-wound strings, and simpler, more repetitive bass lines, incorporating new techniques like thumb slapping, Jamerson's style fell out of favor with local producers and he found himself reluctant to try new things. By the 1980s he was unable to get any serious gigs work as a session musician.

Long troubled by alcoholism, Jamerson died of complications stemming from cirrhosis of the liver, heart failure and pneumonia on August 2, 1983 in Los Angeles.

Re: POB at 8 in UK [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 18 Jun 2008 11:54 PM CDT

Quote from: TonyW on June 18, 2008, 11:28:14 PM

http://youtube.com/watch?v=vVbaEV7nzlk

now just imagine what it would've been like if dennis could've performed songs like that live....

Re: POB at 8 in UK [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 18 Jun 2008 11:28 PM CDT

So if POB is an album hit in the UK will there be more than just a few Cliff Richard fans amazed that Dennis did a cover of Cliff's "End Of The Show""??

Roll Eyes

yes ... note the rolling of the eyes Roll Eyes

http://youtube.com/watch?v=vVbaEV7nzlk