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Re: Will Pacific Ocean Blue chart in Billboard? [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 18 Jun 2008 06:56 AM CDT Not sure what will happen, but what the heck, I'll go for top 40!

Re: Brian and psychedelic rock [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 18 Jun 2008 06:33 AM CDT Baroque perhaps; heavy, no.  However, I don't BW was/is ever able to let go of that gentle, lighter, idiosyncratic touch.  It's part pf the man.

Re: Carl Wilson Admiration Society Thread [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 18 Jun 2008 05:13 AM CDT Chalk my name down -  no Carl, no real Beach Boys.

Re: Will Pacific Ocean Blue chart in Billboard? [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 18 Jun 2008 05:12 AM CDT Conservatively i've voted Top 100.  I believe that it deserves to be higher, and i hope it gets there, but in this fickle market geared entirely towards teens [what is WITH these record companies, anyway?!], it may well not.

Re: Brian makes top 10 songwriters list! [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 18 Jun 2008 04:43 AM CDT Springsteen doesn't deserve to be in a top 100, Dylan does not belong in the top 3 and McCartney should be no. 1. Amen.

Will Pacific Ocean Blue chart in Billboard? [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 18 Jun 2008 03:58 AM CDT With All the Internet charting of POB, how will it do it in the Billboard Top 200?

Brian and psychedelic rock [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 18 Jun 2008 03:32 AM CDT I'm interested what people think about how things evolved in the late 60s and 70s. I see the original "smile" as a psychedelic rock album with perhaps baroque and early prog-rock elements. We know that Brian didn't overtly pursue this further, despite hints on later work. Other people did, though, and took things in various directions. Was this because of Brian's disposition? By his nature, would he have been able to create heavier rock along the lines of Hawkwind, Gong, or King Crimson ? Songs like "Mess Of Help" and even "Sweet Mountain" perhaps show where he was heading in this regard. On the other hand, were the band itself and the people surrounding them the main obstacle to Brian becoming a real 70s rocker?

Re: HMV - POB is on it's way!? [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 18 Jun 2008 02:15 AM CDT Quote from: STE on June 12, 2008, 04:01:53 PM One Italian right here.  I rather not speak to you Dutch guys for a while.....    [off topic] Wanna talk to us again now?  [/off topic]

Re: Brian makes top 10 songwriters list! [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 18 Jun 2008 01:50 AM CDT What the hell is Paste Magazine? Never heard of it.

Re: 60s Mix Suggestions for my 61-Year-Old Dad? [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 18 Jun 2008 01:20 AM CDT Like I said, no Staff Sgt. Barry Sadler, no Gary Puckett and the Union Gap, let's see...no Tiny Tim; I'm missing Mrs. Miller Does The Fugs...possibly one or more Shari Lewis and Lambchop records that have not been reissued...Did Bill Frawley Sings The Old Ones come out in the fifties or sixties? Seriously, off a comprehensive list like SJS's, I probably have nine of ten or eight of ten songs on CD somewhere, so that's about where I stand..  I'm sure some folks here have much better collections.  I mostly have a single-disc collection by singles bands like Sam The Sham or The Mindbenders or the Tremeloes or the American Breed or Sonny and Cher or The Swingin' Blue Jeans (now someone will say that those were album artists, o.k., o.k.!) .  Bigger sets for groups like the Hollies or the Four Seasons- three discs plus random other stuff.  For Motown I have mostly collections.  I don't have every Byrds album, but I have the first six, I think, and the 1990 box set.  Missing a little bit of the early Kinks on CD.  I only have a collection on Jefferson Airplane; I'll fill them in eventually. The Grateful Dead is another hole- need more of them. For Pink Floyd's sixties stuff I still only have their first album on disc at the moment, but after all these years I'm closing in on a lot of territory. About five or so discs of the Yardbirds, but I know I don't have the Little Games set or Roger The Engineer. Simon and Garfunkel- missing a few studio albums on disc, and don't have their Tom And Jerry stuff, but have several discs, the box set and Simon's first from 1965.  James Brown- the box set and the two Apollo sets, but not every album. Hendrix- basic catalog, but certainly not all the archival stuff. So that's a sample. Biggest bands or acts still unrepresented in my music closet, off the top of my head: the Youngbloods, Sir Douglas Quintet, the Fugs, Quicksilver Messenger, Hank Ballard, Jose Feliciano, John Mayall (except for what's on the Clapton box), B.J. Thomas.  Need a good set of the Small Faces. Some time in about 2021 I'll buy the last Yma Sumac disc, and come back in here and edit my answer to "yes, except for Gary Puckett." I'm  a little less so on the seventies, there was more stuff, and more stuff I just don't like.  I'm dreading my Uriah Heep phase.

Re: POB / Bambu on Amazon Best Sellers List [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 17 Jun 2008 11:18 PM CDT Dennis Wilson could beat up Coldplay in a bar fight all by himself with one hand tied behind his back....I'll take "4"....

Re: Brian makes top 10 songwriters list! [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 17 Jun 2008 10:53 PM CDT Antonio Carlos Jobim? Cole Porter? Bob Dorough? Serge Gainsbourg? Jimmy Webb? Michel Legrand? Milton Nascimento? I hate it when rednecks compile lists of anything other than the top rednecks.  How embarrassing for the compilers...

Amazon sold out! [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 17 Jun 2008 10:48 PM CDT Amazon just sold out!  Somebody wasn't ready for the demand, I'd say.  Speaking from my personal experience with my last album, that probably means #4 is as high as it's going to go, just because people don't like to order when they see the album is out of stock.  Bummer.

Re: Brian and Macca 1967 pic [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 17 Jun 2008 10:47 PM CDT mystery solved.. thanks guys

Re: POB / Bambu on Amazon Best Sellers List [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 17 Jun 2008 10:24 PM CDT I'd die and go meet Dennis in person if he won and Brian accepted the award for him!!!!

Re: 60s Mix Suggestions for my 61-Year-Old Dad? [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 17 Jun 2008 10:16 PM CDT Quote from: Surfer Joe on June 17, 2008, 09:40:15 PM PM me if you need anything rare- I have the whole sixties.  Except for Gary Puckett and the Union Gap.  And Staff Sgt. Barry Sadler. You have every recording ever released from January 1st, 1960 through December 31st, 1969, excluding about 50 songs?

Five Questions For Brian Wilson [Smiley Smile Dot Net] Posted: 17 Jun 2008 09:15 PM CDT Presenting one of the briefest interviews of Brian Wilson I've ever read. Do you have an unfulfilled ambition? “Not really. I want to continue making music.” What's the highlight of your career? “Playing the Washington Memorial in Washington DC.” What's your most embarrassing moment? “I don't have a favourite embarrassing moment.” Tell us something about yourself which our readers won't know? “I'm in great physical shape.” What's your diva demand in the dressing room? “A vitamin B12 injection.” Powered by b2evolution.

Jerry Cole 1939-2008 [Smiley Smile Dot Net] Posted: 17 Jun 2008 09:07 PM CDT Jerry Cole of the Wrecking Crew has passed away. Our dear friend JERRY COLE died Wednesday night at his home in Corona, California. Funeral services are still pending but a public memorial is also being planned for the near future. Jerry's wife Gale was with him when he suffered a massive heart attack. Jerry was 68 years old and is survived by Gale and their daughters, Monique and Katrina, and son, Cane. Jerry's other son, Keith, died just a year earlier at the age of 28. In what may be a truly fitting final tribute, Jerry and some of the original Wrecking Crew have been recording with Brian Wilson, for the first time since "Pet Sounds". Powered by b2evolution.

Another Quarter For The JukeBox [Smiley Smile Dot Net] Posted: 17 Jun 2008 09:07 PM CDT Dean Torrence, who is playing with David Marks in the Legends Of Surf Music, explains his concert philosophy. Torrence released a solo album in 1966, the psychedelic-pop laden Save For A Rainy Day. However, he previously told The News that he prefers to sing the hits when he performs live. “Our show isn’t some discography lesson," he said. "We’re a jukebox. People put quarters in and we sing the hits they want to hear." Powered by b2evolution.

Still Cruising After All These Years [Smiley Smile Dot Net] Posted: 17 Jun 2008 09:06 PM CDT Motor Trend has a LONG interview with Mike Love regarding the many cars he has loved (the number is quite possibly higher than the number of wives he has loved). The quote below is about higher gas mileage and alternatives to gasoline. "A lot of us really appreciate and love the high-performance cars -- the big engines and great horsepower and fantastic handling. We don't want to sacrifice any of that, but we also don't want to be completely dependent on one or two places in the world for sources of oil to fuel our cars," Love adds. "I think we have enough land in America that we could create independence if our government and the automobile companies put their minds to it. I'm sure they'd have the support of the entire population the way the gas prices are going these days." We chime in about predictions that there might be an end to the musclecar, with the 35-mpg CAFE standards by 2020 and 32 mpg as early as 2015. "That's what they say, but I don't think it has to be the end of anything. It just has to be a different fuel source and that could be the biofuels. I'm sure they can figure it out -- how to make my Bentley run on sugar beets," Love laughs. Love says focusing on Greener technology is doable. "They have cellulose biofuel technology, which is there. It just has to be the economics and the will of the people to have to move it along so we don't have to sacrifice performance just because our oil companies have got us slavishly dependent on their product." My answer: build nuclear power plants and sell inexpensive electric cars powered by the electricity produced by the nuclear power plants. At the same time, drill for more oil here in the U.S., and build refineries in the U.S. Short term and long term solutions that are far more feasible than biofuels, which require a lot of energy to produce, make food prices high, and create their own special brand of pollution. Powered by b2evolution.

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