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Re: Handwritten lyrics [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 02 Jun 2008 04:15 AM CDT

There are handwritten lyrics for two Survivors´ songs:

"A Joyride Cruise" (BW) in Brian´s handwriting

"Wich Stand" (BW, Dave Nowlen, Rich Peterson, Steve Rusk) - chorus in Brian´s handwriting, the verses are Dave Nowlen´s.

Both were shown in the Summer 1983 issue of Don Cunningham´s Add Some Music Magazine.

Re: Is Dick Rising a real person? [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 02 Jun 2008 03:50 AM CDT

Later Jim Morrison picked up on it continuing the put-on by referencing Dick's 2 brothers, Moe and Joe Reising in 'L.A. Woman'.

Re: Miles Davis [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 02 Jun 2008 03:38 AM CDT

I loved the story I read about the making of the classic 'Some Day My Prince Will Come'. Prior to these sessions, John Coltrane had officially left the band (as Bill Evans had done) to lead his own permanent group. Miles had hired Hank Mobley to play tenor sax, and the band was now Jimmy Cobb –d., Wynton Kelly –p., and Paul Chambers –b. with Miles and Hank. On the day that S.D.M.P.W.C.was recorded, Coltrane dropped by the studio to visit. He came in right when (what became) the released take was being recorded. As per his norm, Trane had his sax with him. Miles motioned emphatically, mid-song, for him to take a solo. Miles played a short 2nd unscheduled solo as Coltrane put his horn together. Keep in mind that Coltrane had not rehearsed the song, and probably didn't know the key, or have the chord structure memorized. He hadn't even heard the first part of the take, having just entered the studio. It was not a problem though as he laid out, once again, one of the most memorable and blistering sheets of sound in jazz history. The next day he returned, at Miles request, to play on 'Teo' and he laid down another amazing solo. It was the last time that Miles and Coltrane would play together.

Re: Is Dick Rising a real person? [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 02 Jun 2008 01:31 AM CDT

LOL at the thread title. Escaped the censors.

My mother once worked with a dude named Richard Byrd. She and her friends called him "Dicky Byrd".

Re: Mike's Car Collection. [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 02 Jun 2008 01:23 AM CDT

Quote from: joe_blow on Today at 12:44:09 AM

Is it me or is the Lovester sucking in the belly in that pic?

You call yourself 1973? Hello, 1973. How are you? Name's Jason, nice to meetcha. Dig that photo on the In Concert album from your year of Mike Love with no shirt. Totally keeping the belly sucked up.

Completely kidding, but seriously, Mike's been a pudge for at least 40 years.

Re: Banjo or Uke on A Thing or Two? [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 02 Jun 2008 12:52 AM CDT

I think the way Brian used that influence was cooler then Paul in some ways. Something like Honey Pie is a pure novelty, but A Thing Or Two nods in that direction while still being a truly modern song for 1967. Not saying McCartney wasn't good on his own terms, but Brian had such a subtle way of doing things that you can spend hours deciphering it all making repeated listening that much more fun.

Re: Mike's Car Collection. [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 02 Jun 2008 12:44 AM CDT

Interesting article. If we all just gave up one car, it would be a completely different world! Is it me or is the Lovester sucking in the belly in that pic?

Mike's Car Collection. [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 02 Jun 2008 12:29 AM CDT

http://www.motortrend.com/features/consumer/112_0805_mike_love_celebrity_drive/index.html

Re: Banjo or Uke on A Thing or Two? [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 01 Jun 2008 08:10 PM CDT

Quote from: MBE on June 01, 2008, 07:31:04 PM

... seemed like something out of the twenties.

No doubt Brian's got a lot of pre-rock influences. That's what I love most about his music, in fact. It's less the "Chuck Berry" or surf, and more the incorporation of standards, tin pan alley, Gershwin, etc. Must have seemed shockingly uncool in the late '60s, I'd think. Although Paul McCartney was doing some of the same stuff, I guess. What do I know about cool 10 years before I was born?

Re: Banjo or Uke on A Thing or Two? [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 01 Jun 2008 07:31 PM CDT

Luther you got what I was thinking, though you know your musical jargon much better then I. What really got me was the shuffle beat, it's undertone seemed like something out of the twenties.

Re: Jerry Cole has passed away [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 01 Jun 2008 05:49 PM CDT

Do we know what Jerry and the crew were recording with Brian recently? I'd imagine it not being TLOS since as far as I know that was using most of the BWBand...

Re: Noble Surfer [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 01 Jun 2008 04:21 PM CDT

I've always had mixed feelings about that terminology...

yours,
Josh

Re: New Guy [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 01 Jun 2008 02:54 PM CDT

I just googled it and I see it's not, but yes, they're both references to the same thing. The yellow board is the Beach Boys Britain board, and someone said that jokingly about Chris Farmer's new CD.

Re: Dennis Wilson podcast - Episode One [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 01 Jun 2008 01:11 PM CDT

Part 2 of the podcast is up as well!!

Re: a SMiLE question or 3 [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 01 Jun 2008 12:13 PM CDT

Is there any basis for the speculation that CWTL was originally connected to Wind Chimes somehow, other than the similarity of the chord structure?

Re: Handwritten lyrics [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 01 Jun 2008 11:49 AM CDT

for instance on the lennon situation, (referring to Lennon Legend (the book)), they have so many of his great tunes handwritten (in my life has an extra verse I believe!) We need a Wilson Legend book real soon with a replica of the SMiLE booklet!!!

Re: Noble Surfer [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 01 Jun 2008 11:47 AM CDT

i love hearing 'ain't joshin' in a tune....i was a fan of the term 'just joshin ya'

Re: New Guy [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 01 Jun 2008 11:00 AM CDT

Is that a reference to the post on the yellow board?

I don't know what's on the yellow board, so I guess not! Although, I'm pretty sure that they both are about the same thing-'We're sure to sell a million units-in January!'

For some reason, when I hear that, it still gives me goose bumps.

Re: Banjo or Uke on A Thing or Two? [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 01 Jun 2008 10:03 AM CDT

Not exactly, in that they're doing different rhythmic things--on a few, it's less on the quarter notes and using more pick-up notes in strumming (a little more typical on the guitar). But in terms of voicings, yes, there seems to be a lot of using those types of voicings. Plus, on Friends it seems that on several songs the guitar is doubling tack piano or organ parts, which plays with the sound somewhat. And then there's a sort of overarching exotic quality to the whole album (Hawaiian, bossa nova, etc.) that maybe implies sounds, too.

Re: Banjo or Uke on A Thing or Two? [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 01 Jun 2008 09:50 AM CDT

Quote from: Luther on June 01, 2008, 09:35:26 AM

I understand what you mean, by the way. There is a certain kind of guitar-playing that is on that tune, along the lines of what jazz players do when playing rhythm in the "Freddie Greene" style. It tends to be up on the neck to use higher notes, getting out of the way of bass and some piano and cutting through the clutter, and hitting on straight quarter notes, really chiming out. That's similar to the sound you might expect of a uke player, for example. So it's not like you're way off base.

Great analyses, Luther. I wonder if a similar thing is happening on a lot of the "Friends" songs? "Diamond Head" has real ukulele, of course, but some of the other tracks have that psuedo-uke quality in the guitar playing.

Re: Banjo or Uke on A Thing or Two? [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 01 Jun 2008 09:35 AM CDT

Re: Miles Davis [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 01 Jun 2008 09:32 AM CDT

As we speak, I'm listening to Miles in the Sky, with Filies de Kilimanjaro up next. I love Miles, and bought the vast majority of his available collection when I was in college (about 10 years ago) and immediately thereafter. It's funny you say "in the genre," considering he dominated and/or pioneered several genres under the single "umbrella genre" of jazz. And his second great quintet of himself, Wayne Shorter, Ron Carter, Herbie Hancock and Tony Williams is, to me, the greatest ensemble ever. Period. Miles Smiles strikes me as one of the most brilliant albums ever, as do several of his others: Kind of Blue, Sketches of Spain, Miles Ahead, Birth of the Cool, the aforementioned Filies..., On the Corner. I love him. He may have been an angry, racist, violent, misogynist bastard, but the man was a musical genius.

Noble Surfer [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 01 Jun 2008 09:09 AM CDT

I've had the Surfin' USA album since 1976, and listening to it recently, I just now got the joke with "Noble Surfer" (No bull - ain't joshin'...)

Those kids sure got away with a lot during that conservative era (Dick Rising, etc.).

Re: Big Bag of Vegetables 9-disk set??? [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 01 Jun 2008 03:17 AM CDT

Quote from: Chris Moise on May 31, 2008, 12:19:35 AM

It is almost certain that there are acetates in existence that contain material that has not been booted.

I don't think many unheard vocals could be found on acetates, but the final version of "Wind Chimes" would be realistic for example. The mix Michael Vosse talked about in 1969. I know the boxset version is supposed to be finished, but according to Vosse there were little music box overdubs on the piano part, mixed with different echos. Brian's musical arrangement of wind chimes tingling in the rough wind. Would love to hear that.