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| Re: 'A World Of Peace Must Come' - it does! In September [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 23 Aug 2008 06:38 AM CDT Funny it hasn't turned up on any boots (except "America I know you")...!!!??? BS |
| Re: Pebbles Vol. IV [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 23 Aug 2008 06:34 AM CDT It's a good record and like all vinyl boots fairly rare. The original BFD releases maybe... But the AIP re-issues can't be that rare... I still fairly often see Pebbles LPs in record shops... |
| Re: Pebbles Vol. IV [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 23 Aug 2008 06:16 AM CDT (I hope this is on-topic enough, but hey, the Bri, Bruce and Curt are singing background on one track!) - Brian's not on the Dave Edmunds track. Another BB myth. Thanks. But I could just swear that it is Brian who sings: 'My Woodie's Outside'... who's that then? |
| Re: \ [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 23 Aug 2008 06:12 AM CDT But 'Remember The Zoo' does exist! I happen to have it on the Albanian 'King Zog Rules' label... catalogue number # ST-2581. Track listing: (A Capella Intro sans Words)/The Joys Of Love/A Weekend Alone/In The Country Side/Carefree Days/Brian's Folly (instrumental)/My Desiree ----- Glimpses/The Shining Sun/Bad Habit/Reaching Home Again/Sequoia (instrumental)/Darling Don't Go A nice effort. Not unlike 'Pet Sounds', really. |
| Re: The Clash [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 23 Aug 2008 05:46 AM CDT Nice long call Lance - thanks for chiming in. For the most part you are right here. The Clash never sold out, that is sure. And they cared much more about music than about the doll... um, pound. Sad that Topper got addicted to heroïn eventually. He did a marvelous, now hard to find 12" called 'Drummer Man', and he had the drum talent of many a jazzman from the '50s. Perhaps I was too harsh on 'Combat Rock'. Could be because I find 'Red Angel Dragnet' and suchlike pure filler. But there are ace songs on it too: 'Rock The Casbah' (a secret favourite within the GOP, I hear) and 'Ghetto Defendent', and of course 'Straight To Hell'. FYI: Joe did a stunning soundtrack album, up there with Ry Cooder's best, for an Alex Cox movie: 'Walker'. It came and went largely unnoticed, I don't even know if it ever made it onto CD. I am lucky to have it on pristine vinyl still. Seek it out if you can, it is totally worth it. One Zander Schloss (from the 'Circle Jerks', if memory serves) does a lot of gorgeous string work there. |
| Re: TLOS Bonus tracks [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 23 Aug 2008 05:28 AM CDT Among the songs that Wilson said will be included on the still-untitled album are "Oxygen To The Brain," "I'm Goin' Home," "A Message Man," "Wonderin' What You're Up To Now," a new untitled ballad sung partially in Spanish with both music and lyrics by Wilson, the Bacharach co-written "What Love Can Do," and a cover of Creedence Clearwater Revival's "Proud Mary." Yeah, this is the article! I remember reading something else that the Spanish ballad rivalled 'God Only knows'.......hmmm? We'll see! "Wonderin.." became 'California Role' so thats all those songs accounted for. I'm sure once we have all the bonus tracks we will all be compiling them in with the album in typical BB-fan fashion. I think 'What love can do' will slide in easy, I won't be sticking Proud Mary in it though! |
| Re: The Clash [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 23 Aug 2008 05:08 AM CDT To my ears, no group other than the Beatles define positivity more than the Clash: not positivity in a happy, sunshiney way, but positivity in the sense that the Clash(and the Beatles) had a certain amount of "innate cylinders"--and they fired them all. If they could do it they did do it. One of the great rock bands. Punk is not only a musical form, it was a whole art movement, and the Clash's war with their record company, their ability to put there money where (Joe Strummer's) mouth was--even if, in the end they got their asses kicked by CBS and sold out later on down the road-- is admirable. If your definition of punk rock is "Never Mind the Bollocks" alone, the Clash abandoned punk. If punk rock includes Patti Smith and Television, etc...Well, the Clash certainly is punk rock and remained so to the end. Few bands have so sacrificed commerciality for having balls and character and still they managed to make good music. I don't know about the rest of the band, but I really believe Joe Strummer meant every word he screamed into the mike. Musically, the combination of STrummer and Jones--never a stable combination personality-wise--was perfect. Jones' Keith Richards-esque attitude and talent and Strummer's very real, articulate passion mixed to make music that kicks ass AND is profound--and I would say neither of them came close on their own to touching what they had had in the Clash. Most of all, the Clash never sold out completely--they could have made millions on a reunion tour, but always refused such a crass move til the day Strummer keeled over--though maybe they just weren't able to find Topper. The Clash--the original UK album and the singles and B-sides that followed that made it onto the US album--is punk rock with a message, not the nihilism of the Sex Pistols or the artiness of the NY bands. I disagree with you about Give 'Em Enough--it's a good(not great) album. There's a few clunkers(I've never liked Julie's Been Working for the Drug Squad) but it's got more good songs than *just*Safe European Home. London Calling--eh. I love it, but am tired of it. In the nineties, I couldn't walk into a pub in Denver without hearing songs from it. Sandinista: the most underrated album of all time. Not made to be listened to all the way through. Listen to one side's worth and give it a rest. It's a collection of would be singles and b-sides and it's brilliant. Combat Rock: running out of steam, but still a solid album, up there with Give'em Enough Rope. OK, Cut the Crap sucks, but nobody counts that one. |
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| Re: 1982 is up at Bellagio... [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 23 Aug 2008 04:02 AM CDT I have a question for anybody who wants to answer. Was 1982 any better/worse than 1981 in terms of performances? By 1982 they had Jeff Foskett instead of Adrian Baker, right? I assume that Jeff would have sounded better with the group than Adrian. |
| Re: Olympics [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 23 Aug 2008 02:23 AM CDT Australia's team really stepped up after a rough start and did just fine against the USA--nothing to be ashamed of there. A fellow fanatic friend and I were discussing how several of the Australian men's team who aren't here could be playing in the NBA: Chris Anstey (who did play with the Dallas Mavericks for a few years in the 1990s) and Matt Nielsen in particular, as well as some guys who still have a good chance to someday, such as Brad Newley and Joe Ingles. And Patrick Mills, who plays in St. Mary's (Calif.) University, is definitely going to make it: he is a star. Yeah I heard we did pretty well...although of course that is hearing it from the biased Australian media. When I saw that last 10 minutes or so Andrew Gaze (who was commentating over here) was getting really fired up and angry at the USA team. It was pretty funny to hear as he was clearly over-reacting. But yeah I have heard a lot of good things about Patrick Mills and much has been made about how he is the first (or one of the first) indigenous Australians to perhaps make it big one day. So I hope he does well as that would be great for a lot of the indigenous people over here. |
| Re: My TLOS LP review (warning spoiler) [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 23 Aug 2008 02:09 AM CDT Hey Mikey, see you at Toys R Us at Miranda Fair at 2PM on Tuesday, 9th September!! Yep see you there!!  |
| Re: My TLOS LP review (warning spoiler) [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 23 Aug 2008 02:07 AM CDT Wee Helper, where are you from? Your profile suggests that you are from Yorkshire, so if so where in Yorkshire? T'Yorkshire Dales, just outside Settle. You a Tyke too, Mikey? Na, I'm born and bred in Sydney but my dad (and indeed most of his side of the family) is from Yorkshire and more specifically Wibsey. So I am pretty proud of my Yorkshire heritage and I follow Bradford City, Bradford Bulls, Yorkshire CCC etc.. I've only been there once but I hope to get back there again someday. |
| Re: Brian's \ [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 23 Aug 2008 01:52 AM CDT By the way, it's Steven, with a "v", not Stephen. Sorry about that. Considering I obviously had just pulled out the book to get the quote and page numbers, you'd think I'd have gotten your name spelled correctly, too. I need a fact-checker for me when I'm checking facts. I might have to consider posting sober from now on.Luther, are you ever NOT drunk? |
| Re: Query for Mark A. Moore [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 23 Aug 2008 01:38 AM CDT Mark: Well, I didn't buy it for the 77 re-recordings -- they seem like the equivalent of the Hite Morgan Beach Boys sessions -- cheaply licensed to lots of different folks. I just recognized the Jan Berry stuff from the 70s, and I wasn't aware of any other in-print album that had it. Frankly, I can't imagine it's legit, given that the Jan stuff sounds like it's been mastered from a cassette. But I kind of like those later recordings, and think it's a shame that Jan's work wasn't treated with more respect. |
| Re: Query for Mark A. Moore [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 23 Aug 2008 01:27 AM CDT Thanks so much, Mark. I appreciate it. I've been slowly wading into the Jan and Dean waters this year (picked up the "From Surf City to Drag City" comp, and have orders in for your CD and the Liberty singles collection) and was just surprised to see such an odd compilation. (Plus it was 7-8 bucks.) Any idea if it's legit or not? I don't even buy the endless re-treads . . . Anytime you see "Fun, Fun, Fun," . . . "Help Me Rhonda" . . . or "I Get Around" on a J&D comp . . . they're more than likely re-recordings, from the cache of Dean's re-recordings listed in tracks 1-10 above.. Also . . . I'd like to know the business details of any labels that are licensing outtakes of original J&D material . . . or Jan Berry solo material, etc. M. M. |
| "Zoo" and other favorites - rock's great fake albums! [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 23 Aug 2008 01:02 AM CDT Thought this was relevant, since there was discussion about "Zoo" in the other thread... there seem to be quite a few fake albums in rock 'n' roll lore. I don't mean misattributed ones (like "Klaatu" or "The Phantom's Divine Comedy") but ones that were never made by the band and only began as urban legends. Any others I'm missing? * The Beach Boys - "Remember The Zoo?" (1966) TRACKS: In The Back Of My Mind / Let Him Run Wild / Summer Means New Love / The Little Girl I Once Knew / Trombone Dixie / In My Childhood / Pet Sounds / I'm Waiting For The Day / I'm In Great Shape / Teeter Totter Love / Tones / Remember The Zoo? SOURCE: A hoax in Beach Boys Australia magazine that got out of hand thanks to fan confusion. CREATED?: Yes, I made a reconstruction of it * The Beatles - "Hot As Sun" (1969) TRACKS: Maxwell's Silver Hammer / Don't Let Me Down / Hot As Sun / Junk / Polythene Pam / Octopus's Garden / I Should Like To Live Up A Tree / Zero Is Just Another Even Number / What's The News Mary Jane / Dirty Old Man / Proud As You Are / Watching Rainbows SOURCE: An untrue article printed in Rolling Stone in 1970, detailing the Beatles' lost album from the summer of 1969 CREATED?: Yes, released on CD by the Japanese bootleg label Junk Headz in two different variations * The Masked Marauders - "The Masked Marauders" (1969) TRACKS: Season Of The Witch / With A Little Help From My Friends / In The Midnight Hour / Masters Of War / Prisoners Of Love / Duke Of Earl / The Book Of Love / I'm The Japanese Sandman (Rang Tang Ding Dong) / Mammy / Cow Pie / I Can't Get No Nookie / Kick Out The Jams / Oh Happy Day SOURCE: Another incorrect Rolling Stone article detailing a supposed collaboration between Lennon, McCartney, Harrison, Dylan, and Jagger CREATED?: Yes, recorded in truncated form by the Cleanliness and Godliness Skiffle Group to meet the demand for the nonexistent album * They Might Be Giants - "Insect Hospital" (1987) SOURCE: The band themselves, in an onstage comment, claimed that this was a 'lost album' between their debut album and "Lincoln" - but when viewed alongside other onstage comments (John Flansburgh once stated that their next album was called "Factory Showroom 2: Back To Hell"), it most likely never existed CREATED?: No, though there's enough unreleased material from that period that I suppose a fan could make one if they wanted to... * Pink Floyd - "Double Core" (2006) TRACKS: Deep Horizon / Titanic Drill / Away From The Skies / Magnolia / Silent Victory / Come And See / No Heaven and No Hell / Stars SOURCE: Online rumor about a four-man Floyd reunion album started by a fan on a forum, who enhanced the rumor by creating a CD booklet for the supposed album CREATED?: Yes, every song was later written and recorded by the Neptune Pink Floyd forum. |
| Re: Query for Mark A. Moore [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 23 Aug 2008 12:33 AM CDT Thanks so much, Mark. I appreciate it. I've been slowly wading into the Jan and Dean waters this year (picked up the "From Surf City to Drag City" comp, and have orders in for your CD and the Liberty singles collection) and was just surprised to see such an odd compilation. (Plus it was 7-8 bucks.) Any idea if it's legit or not? |
| Re: TLOS Bonus tracks [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 23 Aug 2008 12:25 AM CDT Yep. This is what I'm doing. I have an iTunes preorder in. I will go to Best Buy for the Carol King track version -- it should be 10-12 bucks or so, if past pricing is any guide. I'll then buy the double disc version somewhere -- so yeah, I'll be paying about 30 bucks to get it all. But I've been eating too much anyway. Food can wait. |
| Re: Query for Mark A. Moore [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 23 Aug 2008 12:25 AM CDT Answers . . . 1 I Get Around — Remake with Dean and Papa Doo Run Run, recorded in 1977 2 Little Old Lady from Pasadena [No1] — Remake with Dean and Papa Doo Run Run, recorded in 1977 3 Little Deuce Coup — Remake with Dean and Papa Doo Run Run, recorded in 1977 4 Surf City — Remake with Dean and Papa Doo Run Run, recorded in 1977 5 Ride the Wild Surf — Remake with Dean and Papa Doo Run Run, recorded in 1977 6 Sidewalk Surfin' [No1] — Remake with Dean and Papa Doo Run Run, recorded in 1977 7 Fun, Fun, Fun — Remake with Dean and Papa Doo Run Run, recorded in 1977 8 Help Me Rhonda — Remake with Dean and Papa Doo Run Run, recorded in 1977 9 Dead Man's Curve — Remake with Dean and Papa Doo Run Run, recorded in 1977 10 Drag City — Remake with Dean and Papa Doo Run Run, recorded in 1977 The tracks above were released as "Jan & Dean" . . . and they fooled a hell of a lot of youngsters who saw the J&D movie in 1978. People thought at first that these recordings were original J&D tracks . . . NOT. So there was a learning curve. 11 Do You Wanna Dance [live] — The beginnings of Dean's cover band. 12 Roll Over Beethoven [live] — The beginnings of Dean's cover band. 13 California Girls [live] — The beginnings of Dean's cover band. 14 Little Old Lady from Pasadena [No2] — Outtake of orignal Jan & Dean version, missing some backing vocals and doubling. 15 Sidewalk Surfin' [No3] — Alternate of original version, missing lead vocals. 16 The New Girl in School — Alternate of original version, missing lead vocals. 17 Tell 'Em I'm Surfin' — J&D cover version from the original RIDE THE WILD SURF LP (1964) . . . a bad lead vocal from Jan, and the Baggys original is much better, vocally. On the other hand, J&D's cover of Sloan & Barri's "Summer Means Fun" is superior. 18 She's Still Talkin Baby Talk — Original J&D side from 1962. 19 Tinsel Town — Alternate version of Jan Berry solo track (Ode, released 1974). 20 Don't You Just Know It — Jan & Brian (Ode, released 1973) 21 Little Queenie — Jan Berry solo track (A&M, released 1977) — (a Chuck Berry composition) 22 That's the Way It Is — Jan Berry solo track (A&M, released 1977) — B-side was "Little Queenie" 23 Totally Wild — Sounds like an alternate take of the B-side of Jan & Dean's "Fun City" (Ode, 1975). Dean only participated on "Fun City" . . . so "Totally Wild" was a Jan Berry solo track. 24 Fun City — Jan & Dean side from 1975. See Track #23 above. 25 Sidewalk Surfin [No2] — Jan Berry solo single (with Dean!) . . . A&M, 1978 . . . "Skateboard Surfin' U.S.A." 26 Little Old Lady from Pasadena — Another outtake from the original J&D sessions (1964) . . . featuring Dean Torrence falsetto parts that were axed from the final hit single version. 27 Sing — This is a version of Jan Berry's solo single called "Sing Sang A Song" . . . (Ode, released in 1976). 28 Mother Earth — Jan Berry solo single . . . his first meaningful lead vocal released after his accident . . . (Ode, released in 1972). M. |
| Re: Brian's \ [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 22 Aug 2008 11:53 PM CDT Steve, thanks so much for making the time to post here, and tell all of us some of your stories. I have a question for you, if I may. Actually, it's more like a request. Would you PLEASE digitize all of your original interview tapes?  If not to release them publicly(I doubt you could, for various legal reasons), then at least to perserve them. I'm sure that there is way to much important information to lose if those tapes deteriorated(God forbid). Simply put, those interviews are a Beach Boys fanatics wet dream. |
| Re: Brian's \ [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 22 Aug 2008 11:49 PM CDT "Summer Dreams" |
| Re: Brian's \ [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 22 Aug 2008 11:35 PM CDT Was "Summer Dreams" or "American Family" based on Steven's book? |
| BRIAN WILSON SIGNED AUTOGRAPHED BASEBALL, GIANTS, COA ["brian wilson"] Posted: 21 Aug 2008 08:21 PM CDT |
| Eric Clapton Brian Wilson Sugar Ray Benefit Show Poster ["brian wilson"] Posted: 21 Aug 2008 08:18 PM CDT |
| SIGNED IST ED BRIAN WILSON'S "WOULDN'T IT BE NICE" W/LP ["brian wilson"] Posted: 21 Aug 2008 07:59 PM CDT |
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