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| Re: The Steven Gaines Thread [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 24 Aug 2008 06:54 AM CDT A friend of mine caught him on the way to the stage in Atlanta before an eighties Beach Boys/Chicago show and got him to sign something. He said "thank you" to Carl's back, as Carl walked away, and Carl turned to reply, with emphasis, "No, thank YOU." That's become my capsule image of him. Surfer Joe -- Your capsule image of Carl is totally correct. I'm only sorry for your sake you don't have a memory or two of Carl of your own. The last time I talked with Carl was on March 29th, 1996 at the Riviera in Las Vegas. Through a friend's connections I was lucky enough to be there. He had just been through what I thought would be a soundcheck but turned into a full-blown rehearsal due to two new members in the backing band (Chris Farmer who'd played with them before and Tim Bonhomme). It lasted 160 mins from start to finish. They had two shows to do that night but Carl still took the time to talk with me and my friend for about ten mins. Carl remembered my name from me having spoken with him on the "Big Red Boat Cruise" in May of 1995. The bulk of that conversation was about pictures of the house that Audree was born in in South Minneapolis. I gave him copies of those pics I'd taken (the info courtesy of Timothy White's book...page 62 I think) . Obviously, I lived in the Minneapolis area at the time. How many "Rock Stars" would remember the name of just another fan from ten months earlier? I've said this before about Carl Dean Wilson. He was both a gentleman and a gentle man! I miss him tremendously and will until the day I die. Great story, thanks for sharing that- I'm sure we'd all like to hear more about that rehearsal. I never met Carl, but was lucky enough to see him perform a number of times. I got to see Dennis once, too... Which brings up another question for the subject of this thread: having been at the famous '76 birthday party, did you have any interaction with Dennis? Also, how did you go about recreating those last days so vividly? It must have still been a VERY awkward topic. Finally, did you show up in any of the documentaries that include footage from that party? |
| Re: QUOTING [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 24 Aug 2008 05:59 AM CDT I'm actually a little confused as to how anyone messes up the use of quotes, to be honest. It isn't rocket science. A solid 195% of my posts are made when I'm drunk, and I can manage. Luther, were you drunk when you wrote this? |
| Re: Van Dyke Parks [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 24 Aug 2008 05:58 AM CDT I think "traditional music" has become more and more important to him, he's trying to keep the "heritage of Americana" alive. Just check as an example the wonderful "Spooked" album by Marley's Ghost, which he produced 2006. The credit given by the band goes like this: "Very special thanks to our skipper Van Dyke Parks, who, with humour and insight, guided us on a marvelous adventure to explore uncharted musical places" and Ed Littlefield puts it in verse: "Our prodigious producer Van Dyke Told Dan, Jon, Ed and Mike 'More Chi-chi for you!' And the parts grew and grew Into amazing recordings we like Now a band at hard work must be fed Or they tire and grow weak in the head With Van dyke in the kitchen To create meals mas bitchin' Is a most elegant way to break bread" another example for unearthing old stuff is his interpretation of "Greenland Whale Fisheries" on Hal Willner's "Rogue's Gallery" project (2006). Great post, dogear! I recall VDP in a TV documentary (in which Randy Newman also figures), wearing a cook's skirt (is that the expression) and making some sort of African soup or something... and I must check out that Willner project. VDP did a great job on a Willner LP from 1985 or so, with songs by Kurt Weill, notably the Johnny Jonson Medley, with singer Kathy Dalton. If I remember correctly, he also was present on the Willner project with Walt Disney music. (...and I bought a Peter Case 12" once, 'Small Town Spree', because VDP arranged the strings on it). Great musician, great person. |
| Re: Van Dyke Parks [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 24 Aug 2008 05:05 AM CDT I think "traditional music" has become more and more important to him, he's trying to keep the "heritage of Americana" alive. Just check as an example the wonderful "Spooked" album by Marley's Ghost, which he produced 2006. The credit given by the band goes like this: "Very special thanks to our skipper Van Dyke Parks, who, with humour and insight, guided us on a marvelous adventure to explore uncharted musical places" and Ed Littlefield puts it in verse: "Our prodigious producer Van Dyke Told Dan, Jon, Ed and Mike 'More Chi-chi for you!' And the parts grew and grew Into amazing recordings we like Now a band at hard work must be fed Or they tire and grow weak in the head With Van dyke in the kitchen To create meals mas bitchin' Is a most elegant way to break bread" another example for unearthing old stuff is his interpretation of "Greenland Whale Fisheries" on Hal Willner's "Rogue's Gallery" project (2006). |
| Re: The Ding Dang Variations [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 24 Aug 2008 04:45 AM CDT great, Jez! |
| Re: Van Dyke Parks [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 24 Aug 2008 03:35 AM CDT I really like VDP. I think I am one of the few that hates Song Cycle. I mean don't get me wrong, I love Jump, Toyko Rose, Clang of the Yankee Reaper, the stuff he did with Indra from Bird & The Bee (I think it is FANTASTIC!!) and Black Sheep from the Walk Hard movie. Just can't get into Song Cycle though for some reason. Hiya Surfergirl7 - I am not that surprised. After 'Song Cycle', VDP worked in more traditional song structures. Perhaps that is what you mean to express. SC is more 'experimental', more echo-y; it's definitely one of a kind and unrepeatable. |
| Re: The Ding Dang Variations [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 24 Aug 2008 03:32 AM CDT Jez, I've been enjoying your piano tributes for a couple of years now, and I'm so glad that you have posted these for all to hear! Everyone's in for a treat and a half! |
| I hear ya Jay! [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 24 Aug 2008 01:55 AM CDT Love this thing....all of it. The criticisms I have heard so far are asinine. Brian sounds reborn. Like he says, the best part of this trip just might be the ride. He still has fourth gear. I consider myself lucky. |
| Re: My TLOS LP review (warning spoiler) [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 24 Aug 2008 01:39 AM CDT I just listened to the whole ding-dang album streaming on usatoday.com and it left me with tears at the end. Mesmerizing and beautiful. http://www.usatoday.com/life/music/news/2008-08-22-brian-wilson-tracks_N.htm |
| Re: The Steven Gaines Thread [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 24 Aug 2008 12:49 AM CDT I hate being so young. I was ten when Carl died, and I didn't even know who he was until six years after that. Carl Wilson and John Denver are two of the people I would've most liked to have met, or even seen in person, but never ever will. |
| Re: The Steven Gaines Thread [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 24 Aug 2008 12:30 AM CDT A friend of mine caught him on the way to the stage in Atlanta before an eighties Beach Boys/Chicago show and got him to sign something. He said "thank you" to Carl's back, as Carl walked away, and Carl turned to reply, with emphasis, "No, thank YOU." That's become my capsule image of him. Surfer Joe -- Your capsule image of Carl is totally correct. I'm only sorry for your sake you don't have a memory or two of Carl of your own. The last time I talked with Carl was on March 29th, 1996 at the Riviera in Las Vegas. Through a friend's connections I was lucky enough to be there. He had just been through what I thought would be a soundcheck but turned into a full-blown rehearsal due to two new members in the backing band (Chris Farmer who'd played with them before and Tim Bonhomme). It lasted 160 mins from start to finish. They had two shows to do that night but Carl still took the time to talk with me and my friend for about ten mins. Carl remembered my name from me having spoken with him on the "Big Red Boat Cruise" in May of 1995. The bulk of that conversation was about pictures of the house that Audree was born in in South Minneapolis. I gave him copies of those pics I'd taken (the info courtesy of Timothy White's book...page 62 I think) . Obviously, I lived in the Minneapolis area at the time. How many "Rock Stars" would remember the name of just another fan from ten months earlier? I've said this before about Carl Dean Wilson. He was both a gentleman and a gentle man! I miss him tremendously and will until the day I die. |
| Re: Official TLOS Album Reviews [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 23 Aug 2008 11:20 PM CDT This is the most cohesive and consistently good album in 20+ years. Not just the most cohesive Brian recording, I mean this is the single best album in decades. Everything from the music to the narratives is perfect. The music is beyond great. There are so many incredible sounds and melodies going on that it's almost to much to take. Brian and his band put The Beach Boys to shame. This is BETTER than SMiLE. Yes, I DID just say that. Needless to say, this album gets 10 out of 10 stars from me. Brian can retire now, and be genuinely proud of himself. With this album, Brian has given us more than we could have ever hoped and dreamed of. |
| Re: The Steven Gaines Thread [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 23 Aug 2008 11:15 PM CDT Another thing about Carl -- he wasn't Brian, and he wasn't Mike. So maybe he didn't get asked as much to be interviewed. |
| Re: The Steven Gaines Thread [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 23 Aug 2008 11:08 PM CDT He was the most opaque of the Beach Boys- outside of the music, we mostly only get glimpses of him through public things like his conscientious objector battle, and little anecdotes, like blasting the freshly mixed "Good Vibrations" through his neighborhood after hours. I also think of the prostitute story from the book under discussion here- "She didn't even care". A friend of mine caught him on the way to the stage in Atlanta before an eighties Beach Boys/Chicago show and got him to sign something. He said "thank you" to Carl's back, as Carl walked away, and Carl turned to reply, with emphasis, "No, thank YOU." That's become my capsule image of him. |
| Re: The Steven Gaines Thread [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 23 Aug 2008 10:26 PM CDT Thats weird, I've heard radio interviews of Carl and he seemed really comfortable and quite chatty. |
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| Re: Teenage Symphony [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 23 Aug 2008 10:06 PM CDT |
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| Re: The Steven Gaines Thread [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 23 Aug 2008 09:05 PM CDT Thanks for responding- did Carl talk to you at all? I'll be starting a re-read of your book tonight so I can come up with some good questions. |
| Re: The Beach Boys influence on punk rock- [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 23 Aug 2008 08:02 PM CDT They use to play Rollar Skating Child in the 70s is almost punkish, in playing it faster then the recorded version. |
| Re: Van Dyke Parks [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 23 Aug 2008 08:01 PM CDT I really like VDP. I think I am one of the few that hates Song Cycle. I mean don't get me wrong, I love Jump, Toyko Rose, Clang of the Yankee Reaper, the stuff he did with Indra from Bird & The Bee (I think it is FANTASTIC!!) and Black Sheep from the Walk Hard movie. Just can't get into Song Cycle though for some reason. |
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| Re: The Steven Gaines Thread [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 23 Aug 2008 06:57 PM CDT When I've seen filmed interviews of either Carl or Dennis, it's always struck me how much they shared characteristics of and talked similarly to Brian. Which is probably not surprising for brothers, but things about Brian that might be interpreted as his "daftness" are things that might just be part of the Wilson family personality. Brian has never been much of a talker, and maybe Carl shared that trait. |
| Posted: 23 Aug 2008 05:52 PM CDT Wrightfan brings up a good point - and humbly neglects to mention his own amazing SMiLE mix. I highly reccomend it. Eh, Warnakey did most of the work. I'm too modest to take any credit.  |
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