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| Re: Brian's \ [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 19 Aug 2008 06:45 AM CDT It was obvious this wasn't Brian writing when he would describe events in the first person while quoting verbatim from Heroes and Villains and other sources. I suspect the new things in the book are all Landy, his interpreting what Brian was going through with his father and the Beach Boys, and the accuracy of it is questionable. |
| Re: Phil Spector Today [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 19 Aug 2008 06:41 AM CDT The trial is about to restart - a motion for the charges to be thrown out on the grounds of double jeopardy was dismissed by the judge. |
| Phil Spector Today [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 19 Aug 2008 05:45 AM CDT ...so, how's the tycoon of teen doing nowadays? How's the trial standing? I haven't heard about it for a long time. |
| Re: Brian and Curt Boettcher [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 19 Aug 2008 05:39 AM CDT Haha i was really surprised when i read this thread to see an old post of mine declaring Curt as fodaing merda. In the meantime I've learned that he was a real genius. Eternity's Children with Mrs. Bluebird, The Millenium's Begin album, The Association, Sagittarius and all, it's unbelievably good! I take back what I said, even though I still dislike his cover!  |
| Re: Brian's \ [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 19 Aug 2008 05:24 AM CDT According to Gold, Brian also dropped off several hours worth of tapes to be used in the book. But it was never made clear if it was Landy interviewing Brian or maybe Landy himself providing some kind of narrative. It has to be assumed that Landy had a large hand in both providing information and otherwise directing the book. It's a praise-Landy book. However, there are stories in there that are unique and sometimes rather bizarre, including ones about Brian's relationship with his father, details about his relationship with Diane, details about various hospitalizations, and ones about scenes with the Beach Boys. How true they are and what the source was is uncertain, but they are found in no other book. Other than that, one large source was Steven Gaines' "Heroes and Villains," without proper attribution. Yup, agreed. But I have somewhere funny recordings of Landy and Brian in some sort of interview. Landy says: 'Brian, you were in a hole!'. Brian echoes, very submissively, audibly on medication: 'Yes. I was in a deep hoooooooole...'. The way he says it makes you laugh unintentionally... I have to dredge that thing up soon.  OK jotted down. It might take a while since I moved house but I won't forget it. Can you tell me why you want to hear it, incidentally? |
| Re: HDCD-encoded versions - how are they? [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 19 Aug 2008 05:21 AM CDT Sunflower was released in Quadraphonic. Amazingly, hifi companies in the early 70s brought out quadraphonic headphones, no doubt in the hope that we'd eventually grow an extra pair of ears. Here's some: http://members.cox.net/quadraphonic/headphones/Zenith%20839-35%20Quad%20headphones%202.JPG Superb! Cheers! |
| Re: Where's Al's album?? [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 19 Aug 2008 05:21 AM CDT It seems each time this 'why did he quit' question comes up, the subject of Brians 'management' is mentioned sooner or later. I would guess the same on other boards. Has there ever been a denial if this is not the case ? |
| Re: Lost Concert dvd [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 19 Aug 2008 05:06 AM CDT Here...1962 http://s3.amazonaws.com/findagrave/photos/2001/222/monroefar.jpg Oh, you mean the other Marilyn?  |
| Re: HDCD-encoded versions - how are they? [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 19 Aug 2008 04:34 AM CDT Sunflower was released in Quadraphonic. Amazingly, hifi companies in the early 70s brought out quadraphonic headphones, no doubt in the hope that we'd eventually grow an extra pair of ears. Here's some: http://members.cox.net/quadraphonic/headphones/Zenith%20839-35%20Quad%20headphones%202.JPG |
| Re: Brian's \ [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 19 Aug 2008 04:28 AM CDT According to Gold, Brian also dropped off several hours worth of tapes to be used in the book. But it was never made clear if it was Landy interviewing Brian or maybe Landy himself providing some kind of narrative. It has to be assumed that Landy had a large hand in both providing information and otherwise directing the book. It's a praise-Landy book. However, there are stories in there that are unique and sometimes rather bizarre, including ones about Brian's relationship with his father, details about his relationship with Diane, details about various hospitalizations, and ones about scenes with the Beach Boys. How true they are and what the source was is uncertain, but they are found in no other book. Other than that, one large source was Steven Gaines' "Heroes and Villains," without proper attribution. Yup, agreed. But I have somewhere funny recordings of Landy and Brian in some sort of interview. Landy says: 'Brian, you were in a hole!'. Brian echoes, very submissively, audibly on medication: 'Yes. I was in a deep hoooooooole...'. The way he says it makes you laugh unintentionally... I have to dredge that thing up soon. |
| Re: Brian's \ [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 19 Aug 2008 03:44 AM CDT According to Gold, Brian also dropped off several hours worth of tapes to be used in the book. But it was never made clear if it was Landy interviewing Brian or maybe Landy himself providing some kind of narrative. It has to be assumed that Landy had a large hand in both providing information and otherwise directing the book. It's a praise-Landy book. However, there are stories in there that are unique and sometimes rather bizarre, including ones about Brian's relationship with his father, details about his relationship with Diane, details about various hospitalizations, and ones about scenes with the Beach Boys. How true they are and what the source was is uncertain, but they are found in no other book. Other than that, one large source was Steven Gaines' "Heroes and Villains," without proper attribution. Yup, agreed. But I have somewhere funny recordings of Landy and Brian in some sort of interview. Landy says: 'Brian, you were in a hole!'. Brian echoes, very submissively, audibly on medication: 'Yes. I was in a deep hoooooooole...'. The way he says it makes you laugh unintentionally... I have to dredge that thing up soon. |
| Re: Brian's \ [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 19 Aug 2008 03:41 AM CDT According to Gold, Brian also dropped off several hours worth of tapes to be used in the book. But it was never made clear if it was Landy interviewing Brian or maybe Landy himself providing some kind of narrative. It has to be assumed that Landy had a large hand in both providing information and otherwise directing the book. It's a praise-Landy book. However, there are stories in there that are unique and sometimes rather bizarre, including ones about Brian's relationship with his father, details about his relationship with Diane, details about various hospitalizations, and ones about scenes with the Beach Boys. How true they are and what the source was is uncertain, but they are found in no other book. Other than that, one large source was Steven Gaines' "Heroes and Villains," without proper attribution. |
| Re: HDCD-encoded versions - how are they? [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 19 Aug 2008 03:08 AM CDT Thanks to all for the great info! - it led me to a recollection way in the back of my mind (where else?): could it be true that either Sunflower, or Surf's Up, or both, once were released as quadraphonic (4-channel) LP albums? It is a bit of a theoretical question, because even if I am right, the format died an early death and the needed needles (hah!) won't be available at any rate, nor the special amps. |
| Re: Brian's \ [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 19 Aug 2008 02:57 AM CDT As far as I can judge MikeyJ hit it on the head here. I can recall this: At the time (1991/2 or thereabouts) Rolling Stone magazine pre-published the first chapter of the book. I think the whole fanbase of BW/BB was stunned then and eager to get the book. I ordered the first printing in hardback and devoured it. Even then I did not have many suspicions, it sounded quite believable, esp. the Hawaii episodes; or the painful depictions by Brian of himself just before being brought to Hawaii. But after a month or so doubts began to emerge. Brian never was a very verbal person. The book used just too many words he never used. And Landy and Co. were depicted as some sort of superb, unfailing healing community. Then word got out about that possible film. With William Hurt and Jeff Bridges, as Landy and Wilson respectively. More doubts were raised. It all seemed too nice. Finally, Gold admitted a couple of years ago that in fact he only had had a few afternoon sessions with a very non-responsive Brian (think: 'um...yes', or 'um...no'). That is what I know about it. |
| Re: That Lucky Old Sun - iTunes preorder + Bonus tracks [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 19 Aug 2008 02:47 AM CDT Yeah and presumably you won't be able to buy these bonus tracks as standalones from Itunes, you'll have to get the whole album. That is a clever move by Itunes. I sure hope not as I've already ordered the album (I would of regardless as I like to have the physical CD in my hands) and I don't want to buy it all again. I know it says "Full album only" but maybe that is just while it is only available as a pre-order? So hopefully when it is officially released on iTunes then they will allow you to buy each individual track? |
| Re: That Lucky Old Sun - iTunes preorder + Bonus tracks [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 19 Aug 2008 02:42 AM CDT Wow I just checked those two bonus cuts and judging from the short 30 second clips they are really good!! What a shame they aren't on the regular CD/Vinyl releases. Yeah and presumably you won't be able to buy these bonus tracks as standalones from Itunes, you'll have to get the whole album. That is a clever move by Itunes. Is Messageman, anything to do with the track Beatleman, that BW said he'd wrote in his creative spree? |
| Re: The Official BB You Tube Thread [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 19 Aug 2008 02:36 AM CDT Its a great clip, and the quality is very good! I don't remember it being this good last time around... Search for youtube downloaders if you wanna keep it.  Haha already did!!  That's what I always do for rare Beach Boys clips just in case they get taken down. |
| Re: The Official BB You Tube Thread [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 19 Aug 2008 02:34 AM CDT Its a great clip, and the quality is very good! I don't remember it being this good last time around... Search for youtube downloaders if you wanna keep it. |
| Re: That Lucky Old Sun - iTunes preorder + Bonus tracks [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 19 Aug 2008 02:34 AM CDT Wow I just checked those two bonus cuts and judging from the short 30 second clips they are really good!! What a shame they aren't on the regular CD/Vinyl releases. |
| Re: Dennis playing organ on 'Good Vibrations' [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 19 Aug 2008 02:30 AM CDT Howie Edelson asked Brian about it last year and Brian not only re-confirmed that Dennis played that part, but he said that Dennis asked him(Brian) to move from the organ so that he(Dennis) could play the take. And Brian added..."and then he drowned." |
| Re: That Lucky Old Sun - iTunes preorder + Bonus tracks [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 19 Aug 2008 02:26 AM CDT Back to the bonus tracks, anybody know anything about the origins of said tracks? Not sure, but maybe they are the ones that Brian wanted to add to That Lucky Old Sun but due to a lack of time to rehearse the songs it prevented them from being added? Or maybe they are the ones he wrote in Oz?  |
| Re: The Official BB You Tube Thread [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 19 Aug 2008 02:23 AM CDT I believe thats the one, Mikey! Wow, Bruce ain't going to be happy!! As far as I know Bruce didn't do anything last time (just told them to remove it) but now I wonder if he will try and sue YouTube? But thanks again Jonas, as I didn't get to see it the first time around.  |
| Mike Love's Many Albums [Smiley Smile Dot Net] Posted: 18 Aug 2008 09:02 PM CDT Meet the producer of Mike Love's "many album".
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| 4 NEW CD'S MODERN ROCK (BEACH BOYS, BRIAN WILSON, DA) ["brian wilson"] Posted: 18 Aug 2008 09:02 PM CDT |
| Mike Kowalski: "It Was My Time" [Smiley Smile Dot Net] Posted: 18 Aug 2008 08:59 PM CDT Mike Kowalski explains why he left the Beach Boys Band, and what he is doing now.
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