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TLOS: Sheer Musical Imagination [Smiley Smile Dot Net]

Posted: 02 Aug 2008 07:04 AM CDT

Uncut Magazine reviews That Lucky Old Sun.

clipped from brianwilson.com

Re: Dennis Wilson Forever DVD [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 02 Aug 2008 05:47 AM CDT

Quote from: SMiLE-Holland on July 30, 2008, 06:57:40 AM

I recently bought it. It's BH's film, and as far as I've seen no updates/additions were made.

Thanks.

MOVED: 'Remember The Zoo' on YouTube... [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 02 Aug 2008 05:24 AM CDT

This topic has been moved to The Beach Boys Media.

Fits better there...

http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php?topic=5880.0

Re: Paley Sessions, your opinions... [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 02 Aug 2008 05:18 AM CDT

Good call, it really does. It's so offbeat.

Re: Potential treasure trove.......just waiting [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 02 Aug 2008 04:15 AM CDT

Wow! this is pretty cool. Let us know what you find if you get that tour. In looking at photo #1 I could identify the "South Pacific" soundtrack LP (lower row on wall) and, I think perhaps , "It's A Beautiful Day" (middle of top row on wall). I'm also taking a guess that is Sinatra's forehead in the cover of the lp (in the upper row far right of the bin). What is the LP directly right of "South Pacific"??

Re: Paley Sessions, your opinions... [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 02 Aug 2008 04:10 AM CDT

I think that "Slightly American Music" just might be the oddest thing Brian has been involved in since Solar System. It reminds me of the Battle Hymm(or however you spell it...)Of The Republic, in a weird way. Grin

Re: Paley Sessions, your opinions... [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 02 Aug 2008 04:08 AM CDT

Quote from: MBE on Today at 04:07:01 AM

Yes it was.

Thanks!

Re: Paley Sessions, your opinions... [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 02 Aug 2008 04:07 AM CDT

Yes it was.

Re: Paley Sessions, your opinions... [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 02 Aug 2008 03:34 AM CDT

Was the original version of "Desert Drive" part of the Paley sessions? I just listened to it the other day, and was amazed. If somebody listened to it and didn't know any better, they'd swear it was a vintage 1960's song.

Re: New BW pics [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 02 Aug 2008 03:16 AM CDT

He looks great. Seems like he lost some weight again.

Re: New BW pics [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 02 Aug 2008 03:05 AM CDT

He looks great in the first picture! Love the overall tone and setting of the pictures.

Re: I'm a new Dennis fan! [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 02 Aug 2008 02:57 AM CDT

My only complaint about the POB/Bambu CD set is that the "real" ending to "Wild Situation" was edited out. The original ending was great! Grin

I have a few questions that maybe somebody could help me with:

1. If "Love Surrounds Me" was included in the set, then why not the original version of Baby Blue(Eyes)?

2. Why does "Are You Real" suddenly end abruptly? IS that how it was supposed to end?

3. Was "Holy Evening" part of Bambu? It's included in the bootleg versions.

Re: Brian Vocally On L.A. [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 02 Aug 2008 02:50 AM CDT

I can't hear him, but as he added a lot vocally to Celebrate The News, Forever, Sound Of Free, etc. perhaps he was.

Mike [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 02 Aug 2008 02:13 AM CDT

Just got back from the show...Lots of fun...Good performances all around.

That Cowsill fellow on drums was tearing it up. Also heard some guitar edge that I'd never heard at any previous show.

Most obscure song: Ballad of Ole' Betsy (Surprise!)

Nice versions of:

When I Grow Up
Be True To Your School
Still Cruisin' (don't laugh---it sounded great were they dropped it)
God Only Knows
Summertime Blues (they were the WHO for about 25 seconds no joke)
Do It Again

Say what you will about the touring BBoys, but they put on a great show and packed the small arena here in American Graffiti country...

Admission to the fair: $8.00 (with Taco Bell discount coupon)
Beach Boys on the Free Stage: Priceless

Take care all---

Re: New BW pics [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 02 Aug 2008 01:55 AM CDT

No 2 reminds me of Jimmy Carter! Grin

http://z.about.com/d/americanhistory/1/0/3/A/39_carter_1.jpg

Re: Brian's Wild Solo-Artist Ride [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 02 Aug 2008 01:54 AM CDT

I don't think the band has ever tried to "cover" for Brian. I think they have always tried to realize his vision the best they can, even if he's not willing or able to do so at the time.

Darian, et. al., don't push for more credit because they are, from what I can see, genuinely selfless.

Re: Brian Vocally On L.A. [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 02 Aug 2008 01:52 AM CDT

I think Brian may be singing on all of Dennis's songs, but definitely on Love Surrounds Me, where he can be clearly heard with what I assume is Carl. Given that BW's relationship was closer with his brothers than the rest of the band, and with Dennis in particular due to a certain form of existential angst they shared, I think it likely that he would have wanted to make a contribution to DW's songs as an act of brotherly solidarity.

Re: Uh Oh! [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 02 Aug 2008 01:42 AM CDT

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That's awesome.

Re: New BW pics [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 02 Aug 2008 01:24 AM CDT

Good pictures... I like how in the pics where he is smiling in.... it looks like a *genuine* smile (as opposed to where he's smiling but it is obvious that it is forced), and makes him look years younger.

Also, the last picture, if you ignore the hair, he looks very much like he did on the cover of Peter Ames Carlin's book.

Re: Brian's Wild Solo-Artist Ride [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 02 Aug 2008 01:23 AM CDT

What I Really Want For Christmas
Christmasey
Gettin' In Over My Head; (1995 version)
City Blues; (the 2004 is pretty good, the demo has more passion)
Desert Drive; (1995 version)
You're Imagination
Love And Mercy
Melt Away
Baby Let Your Hair Grow Long;
Let It Shine;
Meet Me In My Dreams Tonight;
Rio Grande
In My Moondreams
Midnight's Another Day (demo)
Song Wants To Sleep With You

The following have at least one other Beach Boy present so I'm steching it a little including them.
Night Bloomin Jasmine
Oh Lord
You're Still A Mystery
Stevie
Soul Searchin'; (1995 version also really a Beach Boys song but as it's on a Brian solo album)

Honorable mention would be Smile, most of the Xmas songs, a few Roxy cuts, Lay Down Buden, Slightly American, Chain Reaction

Re: Paley Sessions, your opinions... [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 02 Aug 2008 01:06 AM CDT

Like most of Brian's unreleased stuff, its reputation can outweigh its actual quality. (I remember a time in the mid-90s when people idolized the Sweet Insanity sessions. It's true!)

Still, there are good dozen or so solid tunes in there, as well as some self-indulgent dross. "I'm Broke"? Please.

Re: Uh Oh! [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 02 Aug 2008 01:02 AM CDT

Anytime I hear of Pitchfork these days, I can't help but thinking of this (which really applies to virtually all music reviewers in some fashion):

The Onion, September 10, 2007
Pitchfork Gives Music 6.8

CHICAGO—Music, a mode of creative expression consisting of sound and silence expressed through time, was given a 6.8 out of 10 rating in an review published Monday on Pitchfork Media, a well-known music-criticism website.

According to the review, authored by Pitchfork editor in chief Ryan Schreiber, the popular medium that predates the written word shows promise but nonetheless "leaves the listener wanting more."

"Music's first offering, an eclectic, disparate, but mostly functional compendium of influences from 5000 B.C. to present day, hints that this trend's time may not only have fully arrived, but is already on the wane," Schreiber wrote. "If music has any chance of keeping our interest, it's going to have to move beyond the same palatable but predictable notes, meters, melodies, tonalities, atonalities, timbres, and harmonies."

Schreiber's semi-favorable review, which begins in earnest after a six-paragraph preamble comprising a long list of baroquely rendered, seemingly unrelated anecdotes peppered with obscure references, summarizes music as a "solid but uninspired effort."

"Coming in at an exhausting 7,000 years long, music is weighed down by a few too many mid- tempo tunes, most notably 'Liebesträume No. 3 in A flat' by Franz Liszt and 'Closing Time' by '90s alt-rock group Semisonic," Schreiber wrote. "In the end, though music can be brilliant at times, the whole medium comes off as derivative of Pavement."

While Schreiber concedes that music is still "trying to find its aesthetic," he also claims the form has not yet lived up to the lavish praise heaped on it by pop culture journalist Chuck Klosterman and 19th-century French romantic composer and critic Hector Berlioz, among others.

Schreiber concludes his critique by calling on music to develop a more cohesive sound in its future releases.

"We can only hope that [music] will begin to grow with its fans over the next few millennia," Schreiber said. "If it can stick to what it does well, namely the song 'Peg' by Steely Dan, and Tuvan throat singing, then a sophomore effort will indeed be something to get excited about."

The review has split the music community, with many decrying Pitchfork's lukewarm reception of music as a contrarian move designed to propel the publication's tastemaker status.

"It's elitism for the sake of elitism," said Rolling Stone senior editor David Fricke, who refuted Pitchfork's middling rating, describing the entire art form as "transcendent." "I've been listening to music for over 30 years, and it's consistently some of the best stuff out there."

Despite music's defenders, the Pitchfork review has made a deep impression on the thousands of music fans who slavishly follow the website's advice when it comes to enjoying things.

"Music used to be great, but let's be honest, it's a 6.8 now at best," said Los Angeles resident Lowell Radler, 23, who admitted that he just looked at the rating rather than reading the whole review. "I seriously might never listen to music again."

Still, most analysts agreed that the impact of Pitchfork's scathing review of music will be dampened by the 2.4 rating it received from Pitchfork staff writer Dave Maher just moments after the initial critique was published online. Maher termed Schreiber's assessment of music "overwrought, masturbatory posturing intended to make insecure hipsters feel as if they're part of some imagined elite beau monde."

Re: Paley Sessions, your opinions... [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 02 Aug 2008 12:54 AM CDT

Well some great stuff is there. Gettin In Over My Head in this rendition has Brian sounding closer to his pre 1975 voice then anything else I have heard him do the last three decades. Let's see
are your opinions on the following?:
"Chain Reaction of Love" Nice pop song, a little quirky like you said but kind of catchy.
"It's Not Easy Being Me" An ok ballad. It seems like he was trying consiously to write a Pet Sounds style song. Nice production saves it for me.
"Slightly American Music" A fun one, very very Brian. This was a cool era wasn't it?

Re: I'm a new Dennis fan! [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 02 Aug 2008 12:29 AM CDT

Quote from: MBE on Today at 12:22:03 AM

I mentioned befroe I never liked You and I much before, but the new vinyl mix converted me.

The new mix did that for me on "Time," especially the trumpet solo...

Paley Sessions, your opinions... [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 02 Aug 2008 12:28 AM CDT

With Brian having just completed a collaboration with another younger talent (Scotty Bennett), I think it's time to look back at another of his collaborations, one his best since the early 70s IMHO, the Paley Sessions. I think I'm OK in saying a good majority of us have heard them, and that I love most of them and think they would've made a hell of an album with either BW solo or the BB, or both...anyway, I thought we could talk about some of the songs in particular that don't get a lot of discussion:

What are your opinions on the following?:
"Chain Reaction of Love"
"It's Not Easy Being Me"
"Slightly American Music"

these are three of my favorites, the first one a rollocking rock and roll tune that has lots of energy, the second a Pet Sounds-y ballad and the third a quirky kind of music travelouge that must feature a quote from almost every piece of music ever written! I know that Andy wrote the majority of the last one, but what a cool tune nonetheless! I realize that some may not like these as they are very unpolished and quirky, but what do you think?