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Re: 1985 shows [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 23 Oct 2008 05:13 AM CDT

Quote from: Aegir on October 22, 2008, 05:42:58 PM

Apparently that's just a myth.

Good point. I considered amending my message, but I found it quite funny when put this way. Ah, I am such a genius... although sometimes it's a tough cross to bear when one gets berated by lesser minds... [total despair]symbol[/total despair].

Re: The Official BB You Tube Thread [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 23 Oct 2008 01:53 AM CDT

Yeah, that's the wrong speed.

Re: The Official BB You Tube Thread [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 22 Oct 2008 11:37 PM CDT

It's really obvious it's Bruce when you speed it up to the correct pitch.

Re: The Official BB You Tube Thread [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 22 Oct 2008 09:58 PM CDT

somebody wanna clear up who sings lead on the BB version of With a little Help from my friends?
I always thought it was Bruce!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCN1BRTgo14

Re: It's Ok - special edition [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 22 Oct 2008 08:56 PM CDT

If Lorne owns it, I suppose there's a possibility... he's been pretty generous recently. I mean, what are the chances of getting "SNL: Live From Mardi Gras" (which was probably the most humiliating thing ever associated with the show) and "Things We Did Last Summer" (a collection of short films by the 70's SNL-ers) on DVD? To everyone's surprise, we have *both* now.

OK Lorne, the wishlist is getting bigger - we want to see the Beach Boys' special with bonus features and the aborted 1980 season of SNL - don't let us down! :-)

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Re: Alternate Universe Beach Boys Albums.... [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 22 Oct 2008 07:39 PM CDT

Quote from: Wrightfan on October 22, 2008, 05:26:09 PM

Circus of Fools (December 1969)
Here's my most ambitious idea. Hear it out:

After the smash hit success of SMiLE, Brian decides to take about a year long break. Eventually, he is offered to do a movie featuring new and old music by the band. Brian knows the Beatles are doing something similar so he accepts it. The movie is part Yellow Submarine/part Rolling Stones rock and Roll Circus. Brian is the main character as he plays a trippy ringleader who mainifests his acid trips into circus events (not revealed until the end though.)

Circus of Fools soundtrack:
Side 1:
Wake the World (Opens up the film.)
Carnival/Over the Waves
Sail Plane Song (Brian sings song on the dock of a beach after one of his shows.)
I Just Got Paid (Brian flashing back to his younger days. A medley of Beach Boys' songs plays before this.)
Can't Wait Too Long (Sung by Brain yearning for his love, who he left behind to join the circus.)
Celebrate the News (This ends the first act.)

Side 2:
Tones (Instrumental break that plays through the intermission.)
Holidays (With lyrics and band singing the Whispering winds section. Sung while Brian leaves the circus after witnessing the death of a performer.)
Wind Chimes (SMiLE arrangement done a little differently.)
Little Pad (Concludes the film. Brian wakes up from his trip with a modified version of the ending. It gets all warped and then we hear the woo woo woo from Heroes. Brian jolts out of bad, stares at the camera for about a minute...fin.)

I like it! Coulda worked! I was very young in the late '60s, but I've always believed that around that time in music, anything was possible.

Re: The Definitive Vocal Credits Thread... [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 22 Oct 2008 05:45 PM CDT

One person is singing the entire song.

Re: Alternate Universe Beach Boys Albums.... [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 22 Oct 2008 05:44 PM CDT

Quote from: Wrightfan on October 22, 2008, 05:26:09 PM

Awesome idea!

Surfin' Safari-Concert: Same

Today!
Side 1:
Do You Wanna Dance?
Dance, Dance, Dance
Don't Hurt My Little Sister
When I Grow Up (To be a Man)
All Dressed Up for School (Mono version with handclaps)
Guess I'm Dumb (Beach Boys version. I think I put Brian on the lead.)

Side 2:
Please Let me Wonder
I'm So Young (Alternate mono version)
Kiss me Baby
She Knows me Too Well
In the Back of my Mind (Instrumental)
Sandy (Brian on lead.)

Summer Days:
Same but I get rid of "Bugged" and make it an 11 track LP.

Party stays the same.

Pet Sounds:
Replace I Know there's an Answer with Hang on to your ego.

SMiLE (Comes out June 1967)-Now the fun really begins:
Side 1:
Our Prayer/Gee
Heroes and Villains
Old Master Painter/You are my Sunshine
Do You Like Worms?
Wonderful
Child is Father of the Man
Cabinessence

Side 2:
Good Vibrations
Wind Chimes
Vega-Tables
The Elements:
Fire-H+V Intro/Fire
Earth-I Wanna be Around/Workshop
Air-Last part of Hollidays (with the Whispering Winds melody.)
Water-I Love to Say Da-Da (includes Water chant at the end.)
Surf's Up

Wild Honey-
Side 1:
Wild Honey
Aren't You Glad
Country Air
Lonely Days (Completed of course.)
A Thing or Two

Side 2:
Darlin'
Here Comes the Night
Let the Wind Blow
How She Boogalooed it
Whistle In (With a jazzier arrangement, perhaps even a full blown song with a sax solo in the middle.)

Circus of Fools (December 1969)
Here's my most ambitious idea. Hear it out:

After the smash hit success of SMiLE, Brian decides to take about a year long break. Eventually, he is offered to do a movie featuring new and old music by the band. Brian knows the Beatles are doing something similar so he accepts it. The movie is part Yellow Submarine/part Rolling Stones rock and Roll Circus. Brian is the main character as he plays a trippy ringleader who mainifests his acid trips into circus events (not revealed until the end though.)

Circus of Fools soundtrack:
Side 1:
Wake the World (Opens up the film.)
Carnival/Over the Waves
Sail Plane Song (Brian sings song on the dock of a beach after one of his shows.)
I Just Got Paid (Brian flashing back to his younger days. A medley of Beach Boys' songs plays before this.)
Can't Wait Too Long (Sung by Brain yearning for his love, who he left behind to join the circus.)
Celebrate the News (This ends the first act.)

Side 2:
Tones (Instrumental break that plays through the intermission.)
Holidays (With lyrics and band singing the Whispering winds section. Sung while Brian leaves the circus after witnessing the death of a performer.)
Wind Chimes (SMiLE arrangement done a little differently.)
Little Pad (Concludes the film. Brian wakes up from his trip with a modified version of the ending. It gets all warped and then we hear the woo woo woo from Heroes. Brian jolts out of bad, stares at the camera for about a minute...fin.)

Beautiful!!

Re: 1985 shows [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 22 Oct 2008 05:42 PM CDT

Apparently that's just a myth.

Re: Alternate Universe Beach Boys Albums.... [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 22 Oct 2008 05:26 PM CDT

Re: Out In The Country [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 22 Oct 2008 04:19 PM CDT

Sorry guys! From all accounts I've read (there was some posts on this), Bruce was only on a few sessions for CATP. He left the band before most of the album was recorded and wasn't pictured on the inner sleeve.

Fact is, we don't know if Bruce was even on this session, who wrote it, who played on it, who sang it (the end certainly has a Brian feel to it). I agree with AGD, it sounds like Al (and how could he not remember doing it).

Maybe Howie needs to play the track for Al in person! Sounds like Al could use another original track for his solo album. Seems to fit the California coastal theme of many of the songs.

Re: The Definitive Vocal Credits Thread... [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 22 Oct 2008 03:31 PM CDT

Quote from: John on August 29, 2008, 02:35:53 PM

Quote from: signum on August 29, 2008, 11:01:47 AM

Some even think it sounds like Bruce.

With all due respect, "some" appears to be just you. And you've posted on this thread quite a few instances where you claim something is Bruce, when it's not, with the exception of "Thing Or Two". It's one person singing. And it's Carl.

John, thanks for your comments. There was however someone else who expressed the opinion that it was Bruce on "How she boogalooed it" way back when the "Wild Honey" album was being discussed possibly. As for the times I have heard Bruce while no-one else has said anything to agree with me, this does not prove I was wrong. I still think what I thought then.

Quote from: Andrew G. Doe on August 30, 2008, 06:02:05 AM

Quote from: signum on August 29, 2008, 11:01:47 AM

Some even think it sounds like Bruce.

Bruce doesn't think it sounds like Bruce. Kinda convincing, huh ?

AGD, the point I would like to make is that I think Bruce may be joking or not saying everything. Perhaps he said it was Carl, meaning that Carl sang it live, or in some similar way he didn't make known that it was he himself. In my previous post on this thread I was trying to reconcile the statements of Bruce and Al with my ears.

However, I've changed my mind again from that last post. The lines I thought could be Carl or even Al or Dennis are not sufficiently different from the lines I know to be Bruce, and I even can see them as likely to be Bruce too.

In fact I agree with everyone who says it's clearly one person singing the entire song. Except that that one person is Bruce.

Quote from: Jon Stebbins on August 30, 2008, 01:21:16 PM

HSBI...For years I thought it was Al too...the first few lines give that impression...but it's definitely Carl. BW, CW and Al could all sound uncannily like each other, and this is a case of CW sounding very much like Al in places, but the grit of CW's tone and his enunciation is like a fingerprint. No possible way that its Bruce, his tone is nothing like this vocal.

It sounds like Al a little in accent, because Bruce does. It is also a bit like Al's way of singing and I wonder if Bruce is trying deliberately to sound like that. But in terms of timbre it cannot be Al because Al has a clear timbre. Bruce sounds more like Carl in timbre which is why in another way the vocal sounds like Carl. Anyway that's my opinion.

Lines that are most obviously Bruce are the third of the first verse, first of the second verse, third of the second verse and nearly all of the third verse. In fact the high second line "Don't have to worry about disturbing the peace" is very clearly Bruce. The corresponding line in the second verse is clearly not Carl and is a bit like Al except for timbre, and the word "dancin'" gives it away as Bruce. Actually the "sound of a party" line also must be Bruce, even if only because of the word "sound" which could not be Carl on that note: it just sounds totally wrong. The very last line is also clearly Bruce although it is the sort of line that sounds like a deliberate Al impression.

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Re: Recent setlist/s of theMike/Bruce touring group [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 22 Oct 2008 03:05 PM CDT

Quote from: Dave in KC on October 22, 2008, 10:58:37 AM

I must reply. John, didn't mean to get you in trouble. You were awesome Sunday night in your bubble. I really mean it. You get better every time I see you. As for the bpm aspect that I caught, is this something that decades of seeing California Girls performed live causes? Scott? I mean, the music lives in my head.

Are you saying that you were expectng the old live version, which is certainly faster than the record?

All I'm saying is that because we are human and therefore imperfect, one night a certain tempo will be one click too slow, one night right on and one night one click too fast. It's the nature of seeing a live show.

The music lives in my head too!

Scott

Re: Alternate Universe Beach Boys Albums.... [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 22 Oct 2008 02:53 PM CDT

Quote from: donald on October 22, 2008, 01:10:46 PM

I spent hours just trying to edit my Carl Wilson comp down to 80 minutes.

I'd like to see it if you have time...

Hum- Be- Dum Vox on Good Vibrations [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 22 Oct 2008 02:52 PM CDT

Does anyone know who is singing this part during the original GV sessions? Sounds like there are some females singing along...Marilyn perhaps?

Re: in defence of \ [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 22 Oct 2008 02:37 PM CDT

While I think that Jardine's vocal on Strange Things is superb and that alone makes the song listenable, I also agree that Japan was their last really good one. In terms of the 4th CD of Good Vibes, for completeness sake I think you could have added Where I Belong, Somewhere Near Japan and maybe the live version of SIP

Re: Out In The Country [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 22 Oct 2008 02:18 PM CDT

Quote from: SurfRiderHawaii on October 22, 2008, 02:19:42 AM

Bruce wasn't in the band during the CATP sessions, if this was actually recorded then.

1 - the AFM sheets place the song as recorded during these sessions (Feb 17 & 20)

2 - Bruce's last gig with the BB until 1978 was 4/2/72

3 - as it's not Bruce singing anyway, the point is moot.

Re: 1985 shows [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 22 Oct 2008 02:05 PM CDT

Quote from: Ian on October 21, 2008, 02:43:44 PM

Brian played a number of shows with the Boys in 1987-including filling in for Al on a tour when he got sick

Nice way of putting it, considering that Al wanted to be a dentist originally...

Re: in defence of \ [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 22 Oct 2008 01:36 PM CDT

I can't get the video to play. I regesitered and got HMR but no SNJ. What is the trick?

Re: Tandyn Almer [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 22 Oct 2008 01:33 PM CDT

Van Dyke Parks lent a hand in the production of Ruthann's 45 Carry On (Glittering Dancer) Reprise 0941

Re: Alternate Universe Beach Boys Albums.... [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 22 Oct 2008 01:10 PM CDT

This just drives home the point that the BeachBoys have a hugh catalogue and the majority of it consists of great songs. So many songs that as one focuses on one part of their career, one loses focus or forgets about another time in their career.

I've made numerous compilations over the years (personal use only of course) and the problem is always the same; what to include/exclude, how to sequence, and how many discs to use.

I spent hours just trying to edit my Carl Wilson comp down to 80 minutes.

I realize I'm off topic but doing this alternate universe just underscores the vast wealth of material created by the band and it's members over the decades..

I'm thinking of doing a hippie era comp starting with Pet Sounds and ending with Holland. Hope I can keep it under 160 minutes! Beginning with Thats Not Me and ending with Sail on Sailor.

Re: Alternate Universe Beach Boys Albums.... [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 22 Oct 2008 12:45 PM CDT

I've thought about this a bit, and using stuff that was fairly strictly recorded at the right time - three tracks from Concert are actually from late 1963, so could fit on Shut Down Vol. 2, here's my list:

SURFIN' SAFARI:

Surfin' Safari / County Fair / Ten Little Indians / Chug-A-Lug / Little Girl (You're My Miss America) / Cindy Oh Cindy / Land Ahoy

409 / Surfin' / Heads You Win, Tails I Lose / Cuckoo Clock / Summertime Blues / Moon Dawg / The Shift

SURFIN' USA:

Surfin' USA / Farmers Daughter / Miserlou / Stoked / Lonely Sea / Noble Surfer / The Baker Man

Shut Down / Honky Tonk / Lana / Punchline / Let's Go Trippin' / Surf Jam / Finders Keepers

SURFER GIRL:

Surf Side:
Surfer Girl / Catch A Wave / The Surfer Moon / The Rocking Surfer / Hawaii / Surfers Rule / Your Summer Dream

Drag Side:
Little Deuce Coupe / Car Crazy Cutie / Ballad of Ol' Betsy / No Go Showboat / Our Car Club / No Go Showboat / Boogie Woodie

with In My Room as a Double-A Side with Be True To Your School.

CUSTOM MACHINE E.P:

Custom Machine / Spirit Of America

Cherry Cherry Coupe / A Young Man Is Gone

SHUT DOWN VOL. 2:

Fun, Fun, Fun / Warmth Of The Sun / This Car Of Mine / "Cassius" Love vs. "Sonny" Wilson / Why Do Fools Fall In Love? / Shut Down Part II / Long Tall Texan (Live)

Don't Worry Baby / Pom Pom Playgirl / Keep An Eye On Summer / Louie Louie / In The Parkin' Lot / Denny's Drums / Johnny B. Goode (Live)

ALL SUMMER LONG:

I Get Around / All Summer Long / Hushabye / Little Honda / We'll Run Away / Do You Remember? / Carl's Big Chance

Wendy / Drive-In / Girls On The Beach / Our Favourite Recording Sessions / Don't Back Down / What'd I Say (Live)

CONCERT:

Fun, Fun, Fun / Little Old Lady From Pasadena / Little Honda / Papa-Oom-Mow-Mow / Surfer Girl / Be True To Your School / Surfin USA

Monster Mash / The Wanderer / Let's Go Trippin' / In My Room / Hawaii / Graduation Day / I Get Around

TODAY!:

Do You Wanna Dance / Good To My Baby / Don't Hurt My Little Sister / When I Grow Up (To Be A Man) / Help Me Ronda / All Dressed Up For School / Dance, Dance, Dance

Please Let Me Wonder / I'm So Young / Guess I'm Dumb (with Brian vocal) / Kiss Me, Baby / She Knows Me Too Well / In The Back Of My Mind / Bull Session With Big Daddy

SUMMER DAYS (AND SUMMER NIGHTS!!):

The Girl From New York City / Amusement Parks USA / Then I Kissed Her / Salt Lake City / Girl Don't Tell Me / You're So Good To Me / Help Me, Rhonda

California Girls / Let Him Run Wild / Sherri, She Needs Me (w/ 1965 vocals) / Summer Means New Love / I'm Bugged At My Ol' Man / Graduation Day / And Your Dream Comes True

PARTY!:

Hully Gully / I Should Have Known Better / Tell Me Why / Papa-Oom-Mow-Mow / Mountain Of Love / You've Got To Hide Your Love Away / Devoted To You

Alley Oop / Ruby Baby / There's No Other (Like My Baby) / I Get Around - Little Deuce Coupe / Smokey Joe's Cafe (complete version) / The Times They Are A-Changin' / Barbara-Ann

Pet Sounds as usual, and if SMiLE had come out, it's impossible to say what the Post-SMiLE stuff would've been like.

Re: Tandyn Almer [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 22 Oct 2008 12:17 PM CDT

Quote from: harveyw on October 22, 2008, 10:44:14 AM

In addition to the above info, I have a songbook of Tandyn-composed tunes (mainly those included on the Davon publishers demo LP)

Thanks, never seen this!

Quote from: loveandmercy on October 20, 2008, 08:43:17 PM

... co-wrote/produced Little Girl Lost-And-Found by The Garden Club with Larry Marks ...

Great little song in Curt Boettcher/Sagittarius-style. BTW, this song is available on Ruthann Friedman´s CD "Hurried Life- Lost Recordings 1965-1971" (Water 185).

From the CD booklet: Tandyn Almer (the strange and brilliant) gave me the sheet music from his song "Along Comes Mary" which was an enormous hit for the Association. He had signed the front cover with the words... "to my female counterpart". How prophetic those words became.
A few weeks before the Association recorded "Windy" Tandyn asked me to do the vocals on a project he was working on with Larry Marks. "The Little Girl Lost And Found" is the result of that collaboration. It was released as performed by the Garden Club who existed in someone´s pop imagination but actually was myself singing many voices (with the exception of Tom Shipley, half of the wonderful folk duo Brewer and Shipley, who lent a masculine tone in a few select places). Larry proceeded to speed the whole thing up a taste, which makes me sound a bit like Alvin and the Chipmunks, but as a whole it is a funny delightful way ... way ... way ... produced song that still gives me a chuckle.