Wednesday, October 22, 2008

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Re: Alternate Universe Beach Boys Albums.... [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 22 Oct 2008 06:16 AM CDT

I would put 'Little girl..', 'Guess I'm Dumb' and 'Sherry' onto Summer Days, that would make it a corker. I've thought before that Friends/Wild Honey should have been a double then they should have made Sunflower a double too!

Re: Alternate Universe Beach Boys Albums.... [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 22 Oct 2008 02:15 AM CDT

Time To Get Alone (1968)
Produced by Brian Wilson/The Beach Boys

Time To Get Alone (1968) as the Beach Boys double-album equivalent to the White Album... hmm... like that.

Ascrodin: in that timeline, would the BB have outbeaten the Beatles again with SMiLE being released before Sgt Pepper, and TTGA being released before the White Album?

Do you really think all those post-Smile albums would've happened if Smile had come out? If Smile came out on time Brian wouldn't've retreated from the band as much.

I do wonder about that as well... but I think that - even if Brian had been able to (capable of) finishing SMiLE, then I still wonder if his mental state would've gone into the right direction again. In real life SMiLE turned out to be the breaking point. But it could've happened a year earlier (now what if he hadn't been able to finish Pet Sounds!!) or later as well. Seems like it was a matter of time. But trying to imagine what kind of music Brian and the Beach Boys would have created if Brian hadn't used certain substances or if Brian wouldn't have had his emotional/psychological problems from 1964 onwards... we'll never know. Could very well that his musical output from 1964-early 1967 wouldn't have been half as good if he hadn't gone through so much inner struggles in that time of his life.

Re: The Honeys rarities ? [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 22 Oct 2008 01:54 AM CDT

Thanks for that ! I never DID pick up that CChoice CD - maybe I should have done !  Tongue

Re: Alternate Universe Beach Boys Albums.... [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 22 Oct 2008 01:11 AM CDT

Time To Get Alone would have been a corker, probably should have turned the BB into the biggest band on earth. From the point of view of this universe, I like Friends being a separate album, including TM.

Re: Alternate Universe Beach Boys Albums.... [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 22 Oct 2008 12:39 AM CDT

I do add bonus tracks onto pre-existing albums; it's the easiest way to keep track of them, actually. I've thought about alternate universe albums(wouldn't it have been better if...)...I think that this is an almost unique phenomenom with Beach Boys fans--they had so much good music; and tended to present it...somewhat badly, actually.

Re: Alternate Universe Beach Boys Albums.... [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 21 Oct 2008 11:54 PM CDT

Do you really think all those post-Smile albums would've happened if Smile had come out? If Smile came out on time Brian wouldn't've retreated from the band as much.

True.

I do like the essay that was posted on Susan's site, where Brian still has a breakdown, makes a comeback, and then meets Mark David Chapman....

Re: Alternate Universe Beach Boys Albums.... [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 21 Oct 2008 11:52 PM CDT

Where's "Battle Hymn of the Republic" on Holland? Actually, once I actually got to hear that song, it wasn't nearly as bad as I expected it to be based on most fans' reactions to it. Sounds like a typical Brian Wilson song from the time, which means just ****ing out there, like he made it during a week long coke binge. Would've made a good b-side to "Child of Winter".

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Re: C.W. Trbute concert at Roxy: any reviews/comments/feedback/anecdotes? [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 21 Oct 2008 08:51 PM CDT

A great night it would seem. The last few years the golf scramble seems to have been the main event with the CWF so three cheers to have the music back.

Thanks for the hard work.

Re: C.W. Trbute concert at Roxy: any reviews/comments/feedback/anecdotes? [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 21 Oct 2008 08:32 PM CDT

Excellent review, thanks for posting it!  I really enjoyed reading it.  Sounds like it was a fantastic experience.

Re: Alternate Universe Beach Boys Albums.... [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 21 Oct 2008 08:12 PM CDT

yeah I do this sort of thing sometimes too but not as comprehensively as you have done... well done  Thumbs Up

The only thing I would add (off the top of my head) would be to add Guess I'm Dumb to Today!, because you didn't replace Bull Session with anything. I love how you added things like Live at the Monterey Pop Festival etc..

I threw Guess I'm Dumb onto Pet Sounds. I don't think it was recorded until after Today.

Ah righteo, fair enough... I obviously missed seeing it on Pet Sounds... but I am pretty sure it was started in '64 actually... could be wrong though... and even if it was after Today!, it's possible it could've been written a lot earlier and if so then they could've recorded a version... ah well, I guess this is the "alternate universe" anyway, so anything is possible in this case Grin

By the way, you accidentally called the first two albums both "Surfin' Safari"

Fixed!

Re: Alternate Universe Beach Boys Albums.... [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 21 Oct 2008 07:55 PM CDT

yeah I do this sort of thing sometimes too but not as comprehensively as you have done... well done  Thumbs Up

The only thing I would add (off the top of my head) would be to add Guess I'm Dumb to Today!, because you didn't replace Bull Session with anything. I love how you added things like Live at the Monterey Pop Festival etc..

I threw Guess I'm Dumb onto Pet Sounds. I don't think it was recorded until after Today.

Ah righteo, fair enough... I obviously missed seeing it on Pet Sounds... but I am pretty sure it was started in '64 actually... could be wrong though... and even if it was after Today!, it's possible it could've been written a lot earlier and if so then they could've recorded a version... ah well, I guess this is the "alternate universe" anyway, so anything is possible in this case Grin

By the way, you accidentally called the first two albums both "Surfin' Safari"

Re: Carl and the Passions/Holland Question [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 21 Oct 2008 07:39 PM CDT

He sings "On My Way to Sunny California" on the California Saga intro...He also does most of the voices on the Fairytale. On CATP I don't hear much of him, but the AFM's show that he was involved in many of the tracking sessions-everyone agrees that he was pretty involved in the sessions for the songs he helped write-notably "Marcella" and "You Need a Mess of Help"...but not so much vocally

Re: Alternate Universe Beach Boys Albums.... [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 21 Oct 2008 07:39 PM CDT

yeah I do this sort of thing sometimes too but not as comprehensively as you have done... well done  Thumbs Up

The only thing I would add (off the top of my head) would be to add Guess I'm Dumb to Today!, because you didn't replace Bull Session with anything. I love how you added things like Live at the Monterey Pop Festival etc..

I threw Guess I'm Dumb onto Pet Sounds. I don't think it was recorded until after Today.


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Do you really think all those post-Smile albums would've happened if Smile had come out? If Smile came out on time Brian wouldn't've retreated from the band as much.

Well, I had to incorporate all of the good post-SMiLE stuff somehow. And Brian may still have retreated from the group if SMiLE came out on time...the voices and depression would've caught up with Brian eventually no matter what else happened.

Re: Alternate Universe Beach Boys Albums.... [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 21 Oct 2008 07:31 PM CDT

yeah I do this sort of thing sometimes too but not as comprehensively as you have done... well done  Thumbs Up

The only thing I would add (off the top of my head) would be to add Guess I'm Dumb to Today!, because you didn't replace Bull Session with anything. I love how you added things like Live at the Monterey Pop Festival etc..

Re: C.W. Trbute concert at Roxy: any reviews/comments/feedback/anecdotes? [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 21 Oct 2008 07:24 PM CDT

Adam, thanks for relaying your thoughts and feelings on a memorable event. It succeeded in making me feel like I was there! And thanks for all of your contributions in honoring and paying tribute to the great Carl Wilson.

Carl and the Passions/Holland Question [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 21 Oct 2008 06:52 PM CDT

Where did Brian sing on these two albums??  I know his involvement in the recording process had greatly decreased by this point.  But I'm pretty sure I hear Brian on Mess of Help but what else?

Re: Sunflower [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 21 Oct 2008 06:48 PM CDT

This is my FAVORITE Beach Boys album!  I love every cut on it.  The group sounded so cohesive and better than before.   group hug  I think it's highly underrated and it's a shame it was one of the lowest charting Beach Boys albums.

Re: Alternate Universe Beach Boys Albums.... [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 21 Oct 2008 06:07 PM CDT

Superb exercise -  and I love the fact that we'd never have had to listen to Student Demonstration Time!

I don't think Summer In Paradise would have happened if the earlier albums you fantasise had come about [ things would never have got some bad.

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