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| Re: 42 years ago today.... [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 09 Oct 2008 05:44 AM CDT Wow, what a Dick.  Yup. I am a Bank Dick. And a sideshow operator. And a film director. And a shop owner. And the father of a drunkard son in a cabin. And a dentist.A used car salesman and part time window box? |
| Re: 42 years ago today.... [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 09 Oct 2008 04:44 AM CDT Wow, what a Dick. Yup. I am a Bank Dick. And a sideshow operator. And a film director. And a shop owner. And the father of a drunkard son in a cabin. And a dentist.Nah. Just a regular Dick. It's Ok, though. I'd be unhappy if I were you, too. Yes. Unhappiness is the finest excuse there is to be drunk all of the time. |
| Laurie Biagini Finally makes it to YouTube!! [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 09 Oct 2008 04:38 AM CDT I have been waiting for her to for about a year. She is an AMAZINGLY talented lady. Write records all her own music. It is surf/ power pop style. Very soothing to the ears. Her vocals are a nice mix of Annette Funicello and Karen Carpenter. She has only gotten going in the past few years and is a very fast learner. I feel I can optimistically say ,.... she could with the proper exposure and promotion even revive surf music again. Her music is original but in the vein of The Beach Boys / 60's Check both her debut video here http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=O8IAIiHfiX0 and her website here http://www.myspace.com/lauriebiaginimusic Being a huge fan, I eagerly wait for her debut CD. |
| Re: 42 years ago today.... [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 09 Oct 2008 03:37 AM CDT Wow, what a Dick. Yup. I am a Bank Dick. And a sideshow operator. And a film director. And a shop owner. And the father of a drunkard son in a cabin. And a dentist.Nah. Just a regular Dick. It's Ok, though. I'd be unhappy if I were you, too. |
| Re: Has anybody heard, or does anybody have \ [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 09 Oct 2008 02:49 AM CDT Murry Wilson and vintage porn should not be combined. No. They don't |
| Re: Has anybody heard, or does anybody have \ [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 09 Oct 2008 01:12 AM CDT Murry Wilson and vintage porn should not be combined. |
| Re: What did Johnny Rivers DO? [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 09 Oct 2008 01:09 AM CDT I Want to Pick You Up is about a woman. "You're still a baby to me." |
| Brian Wilson - That Lucky Old Sun (CD 2008) ["brian wilson"] Posted: 08 Oct 2008 10:55 PM CDT |
| Re: Brian comments on possibilities of a BB reunion [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 08 Oct 2008 10:48 PM CDT Jonathan, BWPS doesn't do anything for me. Sorry. About its objective position in western culture, I've read wildly differing viewpoints, here and abroad. I guess we need some more years to have a clearer view. |
| BRIAN WILSON-MIDNIGHT'S ANOTHER DAY 7" BEACH BOYS LTD. ["brian wilson"] Posted: 08 Oct 2008 10:44 PM CDT |
| Brian Wilson That Lucky Old Sun NEW JAPAN MINI LP CD ["brian wilson"] Posted: 08 Oct 2008 10:33 PM CDT |
| Re: Brian comments on possibilities of a BB reunion [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 08 Oct 2008 10:02 PM CDT I think the people to whom the mystique of Smile is "gone" are the people who were heavily invested in Smile-as-puzzle-box... the solution is never as interesting as the mystery. But Smile-as-redemption-story is a whole different myth, reaching a whole different audience, including people who hadn't been hanging out for it for forty years. It redefined his legend from The Lost Beach Boy to The One Who Made It Back. Not without a hell of a lot of damage, and not without help, but dammit he climbed the mountain that defeated him all those years ago. Why do you think "the mystique of Smile is gone"? The Smile era is still one of of the most discussed topics on any BB/BW message board, with BWPS raising as many questions as answers. And why do you think "the people to whom the mystique of Smile is gone are the people who were highly invested in Smile-as-puzzle-box"? Do you really think that the many people who value the Smile mystique lost any of that mystique to the Darian Sahanaja-led sequencing of Smile songs for a live performance. You wrote "Smile-as-redemption-story is a whole different myth". A myth? And, finally, you wrote, "he climbed the mountain that defeated him all those years ago". Mountain? Defeated him? There are a lot of people who consider Brian's music - after Smile - including Smiley Smile, to be among his best ever. Have you ever listened to Wild Honey, Friends, Sunflower, parts of Surf's Up and Carl & The Passions? |
| Brian Wilson THAT LUCKY OLD SUN New CD Sealed! ["brian wilson"] Posted: 08 Oct 2008 09:21 PM CDT |
| Re: Brian comments on possibilities of a BB reunion [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 08 Oct 2008 08:39 PM CDT Hey Jonathan, sure it's occurred to you before. But a Doctor Who story - combining sea monsters, surfing, sewerage, sibling rivalry, female hair loss, shock therapy, the ghost of Amadeus, droll men dancing the chicken, cults of beautiful women... surely it's just waiting to be written? Heh -- tempting, but given the tabloid trouble my wife got into when she had the Doctor drop acid (back in her first book), I don't know how much of the real story we could get away with! >:-) Though the image of David Tennant's Doctor being the only person who could keep up with a wired Dennis has a certain appeal... (I did slip a reference into "The Year Of Intelligent Tigers", though, where there's a mention that they're performing "Smile" at a music festival a few centuries from now. "Whose reconstruction?" "Hunt and Lane, I think..." I wrote that bit in 2000, and it just goes to show how bad science fiction is at predicting the future!) ...Dammit, now you've got me thinking about story ideas. Maybe I'll call it "The Lonely Sea"... Cheers, Jon Blum |
| Re: Brian comments on possibilities of a BB reunion [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 08 Oct 2008 08:28 PM CDT Quote I don't know. Between 1993 and 1997 people had access to the whole Beach Boys catalogue and then some (Smile and rarities in the box set). Brian Wilson had a real mystique between the hipsters. It was the peak of 'Pet Sounds is the best album ever', and he still had the Smile ace up his sleeve! The fans expected that, when free of the Beach Boys and Dr. Landy, Brian would show everyone what he was keeping to himself since he 'went to bed'. The thing is... that's about where I came in (I bought the boxset because I was curious about Smile, then liked Orange Crate Art, and finally got ahold of bootlegs thanks to the net in '98)... but I saw a fairly different picture. The legend that was around at that point, where I was at least, wasn't The Once And Future Brian... it was Brian the ex-genius, cut down at the peak of his creative flowering by his inner demons, who'd been trotted out repeatedly like a dancing bear (as it were) by his band and his therapist, and who, now free of them, seemed to need all his mental energy to tuck his shirt in. I don't think anyone I knew thought he was capable of great creative work in his own right, and the spangly and hollow feel of "Imagination" lived down to our expectations. (Which is why everything he's done since then has felt like a successive series of steps up, to heights I hadn't imagined.) The notable thing is that the image of Brian I encountered as I entered the fan environment didn't seem that different from the Brian I'd known of in the outside world... he was still the rock star who'd lost it, with an added helping of having been a genius rock star. But basically it was the same mental image I'd had since I was a kid -- my nine-year-old self can still remember a comedy bit on "Solid Gold" back in 1981, with a guy selling Brian Wilson candy bars. ("Sure, they're nuts, but they're seeing a psychiatrist...") And while I'm sure the hype surrounding the '88 album echoed loudly among the people who already thought Brian was a genius, it clearly didn't carry over into the wider world enough to translate into people giving the record a try. Quote Then.... 1998. Imagination. GIOMH. BWPS. WDIRWFC. TLOS. Gone is the mystique around Brian AND Smile. No one's expecting a comeback anymore. That was vital to his image since the seventies. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Go back through that list a bit more slowly... Imagination... GIOMH... Brian Wilson Presents Smile. Yep, Brian Wilson has finished Smile. How quickly we forget! Right there, that's the comeback no one was expecting. The stuff biopics are made of. I think the people to whom the mystique of Smile is "gone" are the people who were heavily invested in Smile-as-puzzle-box... the solution is never as interesting as the mystery. But Smile-as-redemption-story is a whole different myth, reaching a whole different audience, including people who hadn't been hanging out for it for forty years. It redefined his legend from The Lost Beach Boy to The One Who Made It Back. Not without a hell of a lot of damage, and not without help, but dammit he climbed the mountain that defeated him all those years ago. And I think you only need to look at the difference in sales between GIOMH and "That Lucky Old Sun" to see the effect it's had on the wider perception of Brian-today as an artist worth pursuing. (And the fact that Brian's Smile is such a gorgeous album, and TLOS is exactly the sort of tuneful, playful, tasteful, timeless, crafted work that I would never have imagined the maker of "Imagination" would be capable of again, has only helped get people into appreciating him.) Sure, there are still lots of people out there to whom Brian is just some brain-damaged old guy... but that was the case in the old days as well. I know, I was one of them. Even so, the number of people who will say "damaged genius" now rather than just "fried ex-Beach Boy" has grown in the past decade... it's not just the '60s or '70s generation who kept the faith, the idea's crossed into the post-Brian-Is-Back generation, like me. Cheers, Jon Blum |
| Re: Brian comments on possibilities of a BB reunion [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 08 Oct 2008 07:31 PM CDT Wasn't it recorded in like 11 studios? Also, a lot of the time was wasted. You know what is sad,though? All that money was spent...and Gary Usher saw barely any of it. |
| Re: Wrecking Crew Movie [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 08 Oct 2008 06:44 PM CDT I hope it comes to Dallas at one of the indie theatre's here! |
| Re: Postcard From California [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 08 Oct 2008 06:42 PM CDT I'd be happy just to hear his remake of "Honkin' Down the Highway." That's the only reason I want to hear the album, and I hope I can download that track somewhere (paid, of course). |
| Re: TLOS: any comments from Mike, Al or Bruce yet? [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 08 Oct 2008 06:41 PM CDT You can't ask questions about the greatness of Bob Dylan because he has 'God on his side'! |
| Re: Brian comments on possibilities of a BB reunion [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 08 Oct 2008 06:38 PM CDT This might be only semi-related to the thread, but does anyone know how much Brian's '88 solo album cost to produce and why? I recall once reading it cost $1 million dollars. Considering it was nearly all done with synthesizers, how can that be? Maybe the $1 million included marketing costs, but even if it cost one-quarter of that for production, I'm not sure how. |
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