Posted: 17 Sep 2008 06:15 AM CDT
Posted: 17 Sep 2008 05:46 AM CDT
For the record, the vinyl is a PCM wave file sampled at 96Khz 16-bit. The CD is a rip to PCM-Wave of a friend's CD and not the mp3 file I was working with earlier.
In both cases the waveforms have been normalised at 0.0dB....and this last factoid makes the differences more interesting. Definately no headroom on the CD. Leaves me in no doubt that the CD has been compressed.
To my ears, the vinyl LP is certainly not the best I have heard....but it is a long way from the worst. For a Brian Wilson production it is acceptable...by almost any other artist it would sound great. I didn't get to listen to the CD in ideal conditions but it sounded better than most modern music but not as good as the vinyl....which is what I would expect anyway.
As for someone pointing out that normalising can be useful...yes it can, but if you take a bunch of tracks which were written and played with the intention of some being quieter than others...and then normalise, you are ruining the composer's intentions. Dynamic range exists not only within one song but within an album. Who wants the quiet middle largo movement of a lovely concerto being normalised to 0dB ?
Posted: 17 Sep 2008 03:38 AM CDT
Have to mention "Brian Wilson" by the Hanson Brothers (not to be confused with the recent teen pop
short-term sensations). They had some minor regional hits in the 70's. I used to be an acquaintance of
Paul Hansen's, and he once told me about trying to give a copy of the single to Brian at a "Wouldn't It
Be Nice" book promotion event in San Francisco, and Brian putting it up to his face and sniffing at it bewilderedly. Kevin Leslie, the "surf nazi" was hovering nearby monitoring everything very intrusively.
Thank God for his deliverance from the forces of evil!
Posted: 17 Sep 2008 03:22 AM CDT
david anderle said
"You can always tell how effective a relationship is in the fact that Brian will try to show you he's ignoring something that has happened. If somebody says something that you know has hurt Brian, his immediate reaction will be to slough it off. 'It doesn't bother me.' And you really think that it doesn't bother him, but then you'll notice that for three days he hasn't been in the studio, or for two days he hasn't smiled - you'll start noticing there are certain things about him that aren't happening. If he were having trouble with a musical idea in his head and he got in a fight with Marilyn, thw two of 'em would, it would be like a volcano. It was always that his probledms with hims music were one part of a combustible formula for an explsion, and anything that would happen around that would be the oxygen, let's says, and his was the fuel, and it would explode. And it would generally explode in the manner that he would be useless in terms of musical effectiveness, he would be totally useless for a great period of time. NEW PAR Brian cannot go into a session with something happening in the back of his head and put that back there and hold it there and do his work. His life is his work and if he has an argument with his father at twelve o'clock in the afternoon, and it's sufficient enough argument to cause him to worry or to grieve, he's not going to be able to cut at twelve o'clock midnight. He's not going to be able to do anything effective on an artistic level until he gets that problem resolved in his head or his heart, wherever it has truck him. And the same thing with the boys, with the brothers and Mike Love, or stranger, me Michael Vosse, whoever. Whoever would come around... a writer would come up, say something wrong, strike him wrogn; he'd be upset for a copule of days. Those two days were lost. He would try, he would try almost heroically to get something done, but he couldn't. It would just be terror, it would be a lot of wasted time running around doing this, running around doing that, let's start working on the comedy album, let's go out and record water fountains, let's go out and, for instance, one night he wanted us to go into a bar and start a fight. So he could record it. And that's really carrying something pretty far."
so, if that's how brian could react to a wrong word or a musical issue, what would his reaction be to:
his co-writer walking out for the second time
his getting into legal wrangles over $225,000 of unpaid royalties
his having to put out a single to get past the legal issues with capitol
his fellow bbs having issues with the material he'd been sweating over for months?
while a bit doinked on puff
perhaps his reaction would be to up sticks, go home and do as little as possible for several months. or 'smiley smile,' as we call it.
Posted: 17 Sep 2008 01:28 AM CDT
I don't know really what happened but I can imagine that he could no longer play a full set. I don't think that would have been a problem unless he wouldn't get off the drum stool and was going too slow. Considering how productive he was in the seventies, what really hits home to me about Dennis really declining is how little music he was writing in his last years.
Posted: 17 Sep 2008 01:25 AM CDT
Posted: 17 Sep 2008 01:17 AM CDT
Posted: 17 Sep 2008 12:36 AM CDT
On Eric's set list archive website, c-man is quoted as saying this about the September 26th show: "One of the last shows Dennis played (they played the same venue the next day, and reportedly Dennis was so disruptive with his drunken shenanigans that they had to shorten the show. Reportedly, he never played with them again).
I was wondering if c-man(or anybody who happens to know) could elaborate on what supposedly happened at the show the next day. I read somewhere that Dennis would throw stuff at the band from backstage untill they let him play. Is that what he did at the show on the 27th? I've just never heard of the band actually canceling a show because of "bad behavior". Even at the 1978 show where Carl fell down drunk, they simply forced him offstage, and continued without him.
Posted: 16 Sep 2008 11:50 PM CDT
Posted: 16 Sep 2008 11:45 PM CDT
I never knew the date myself, just that it was May. Seems like a Friday or Saturday night gig considering how many people are there.I always thought that the setup of that Seattle show was weird. The group is dead center in what looks like a huge football field, and the audience is real far away. Does anybody know where the show took place? When a few songs were posted on YouTube, a lot of people were saying that it was at the Seattle Kingdom. That can't be right though, because the Kingdom was an indoor stadium.
Posted: 16 Sep 2008 11:05 PM CDT
Thou hath just invoked the banhammer.
Over 200 views at this thread so far. Guess deleting is pointless!
Besides, who in the band is a Beach Boy to rymondsmith?
Did anyone call? I don't have nerve. Who is it........
Yeah...A Mrs Smith answered. She was smoking a cigarette and I could hear Barry White playing in the back-ground. Sounded kinda short of breath!
Posted: 16 Sep 2008 11:01 PM CDT
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Posted: 16 Sep 2008 10:21 PM CDT
This is what Brian said about POB this past July, to Rolling Stone:He was nice to me and I only work for myself. I think because I was a sincere fan he was warm to me. Maybe if it seems like someone is treating their time together like a job then he closes up. Frankly he's a puzzle isn't he?
Brian Wilson was blown away by the final product. "I first heard Pacific Ocean Blue in my house at Pacific Palisades," he says. "I found it very warm and comforting music. His lyrics were very creative and his voice is very comforting."
He just wanted to make the interviewer go away. I've never read a good interview with him with online-only media. He usually gives at least pretty good interviews to mainstream press like RS or the LA Times. I think he just can't be bothered with media people who work for things he's never heard of.
Posted: 16 Sep 2008 10:16 PM CDT
Songs: (in any order)
1. River Song
2. Time to Get Alone
3. Break Away
4. I went to Sleep
5. Caroline No
6. Sail on Sailor
7. All This is That
8. Til I Die
9. Busy Doin' Nothin'
10. I can Hear Music
Honorable Mentions:Everybody wants to live Just Once and Passing By
Albums (not counting BWPS because it brings up painful memories because it reminds me of my wife's first miscarriage, which is a long story that I refuse to go into)
5. 20/20 (yeah...this high)
6. Smiley Smile
7 Wild Honey
8 TLOS (yeah...this high. Makes me feel good that Brian still can do great music, plus IMHO it's his best vocals in 30 years at least)
9. Adult Child boots
10. All Summer Long
2. L.A. Light Album
3. In Concert
4. Orange Crate Art
5. Pacific Ocean Blue
6. Carl & The Passions - So Tough
10. Brian Wilson Presents Smile
11. Love You
12. Like A Brother
13. Summer In Paradise
14. Surfer Girl
15. Summer Days (And Summer Nights!!!)
16. Surf's Up
17. Endless Harmony
18. Live In London
19. Wild Honey
20. M.I.U. Album
21. Pet Sounds
22. Brian Wilson (1988)
23. Surfin' USA
24. Smiley Smile
25. All Summer Long
Eric, you grade Pet Sounds that low?
Posted: 16 Sep 2008 10:12 PM CDT
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Posted: 16 Sep 2008 08:38 PM CDT
It couldn't be Mike - she's too old...
Bah bah boom!
Boy, I sure wish a Beach Boy would give ME his number... I'd pester him forever about those lost SMiLE sessions...
For those, he could have my wife.
Posted: 16 Sep 2008 07:55 PM CDT
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You can edit your post by clicking the button that says "Modify." Once you're back in it, just delete everything. The post itself will stay up, but it will be empty. As for your problem on that other board, I recommend trying to solve your problems with real people, and regarding those people who don't want to talk to you, move on without them. I hope I don't sound like a jerk saying that, but remember, we're just people on a message board you frequent. We can't really help you, especially if you've got the kind of serious problems you're talking about. If things are so bleak, I really think you might want to talk to a professional. Good luck to you.
Posted: 16 Sep 2008 07:32 PM CDT
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