Saturday, September 20, 2008

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Re: Drummer Earl Palmer dies at 84 [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 20 Sep 2008 06:20 AM CDT

Earl "The Pearl" Palmer . . . a true legend on drums.

Earl played on a lot of Jan & Dean tracks with Hal Blaine . . . and he also did the earlier Jan & Arnie sessions in 1958.

I was lucky enough to talk to Earl about Jan Berry, as part of my research.

I hate to hear he's gone . . . but I knew he'd been ill for some time.

M.

Re: BLUE? vinyl 45 [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 20 Sep 2008 03:59 AM CDT

Yes, I got mine.  I bought the CD/DVD and got the signed blue vinyl on 9/11 in the mail.

So they do exist!  Are they identical to the orange vinyl 45s?  Two songs on the B-side?  Or just one like was indicated on Brian's website?

As the tracks mentioned for A and B-side are the same on both the promo (orange) and limited blue vinyl, I assume that's the case. But I can't confirm yet. Still waiting for the blue one (got the orange one already)

Re: CWF event announcement [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 20 Sep 2008 03:56 AM CDT

I'll be there!

Re: Drummer Earl Palmer dies at 84 [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 20 Sep 2008 03:31 AM CDT

I thought so. I mean, I knew the name, just not it was the Earl Palmer.

Re: Black Cab Sessions [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 20 Sep 2008 03:30 AM CDT

No joke. He seems much more relaxed.

If he could do something like that on TV, being that relaxed, it'd rule .

Re: Black Cab Sessions [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 20 Sep 2008 03:28 AM CDT

Brian is singing very well these days.

The song 'TLOS' is in a register that he sounds very comfortable in, and this performance, sitting in the back of a taxi, kicks the arse off his studio vocals on GIOMH.

Re: Drummer Earl Palmer dies at 84 [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 20 Sep 2008 03:28 AM CDT

Ah yes, here it is, "It's About Time":

http://recordingsunflower.blogspot.com/2008/02/track-6-its-about-time.html

Courtesy of Aeijtzsche.

Re: Brian meets Zooey Deschanel [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 20 Sep 2008 03:21 AM CDT

Brian called her "Joey" at the beginning!

Re: Drummer Earl Palmer dies at 84 [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 20 Sep 2008 03:16 AM CDT

I swear someone on this board said he also played on a song on Sunflower...probably either "Slip on Through" or "Its About Time"... I'm pretty sure I read/heard that he played on one of Dennis' songs from that album.

Wikipedia lists The Beach Boys' cover of "Seasons In The Sun" as another song he played on.

Re: Drummer Earl Palmer dies at 84 [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 20 Sep 2008 03:07 AM CDT

Huh... I didn't know it was the same guy.

Re: Drummer Earl Palmer dies at 84 [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 20 Sep 2008 02:40 AM CDT

I swear someone on this board said he also played on a song on Sunflower...probably either "Slip on Through" or "Its About Time"... I'm pretty sure I read/heard that he played on one of Dennis' songs from that album.

Re: Brian meets Zooey Deschanel [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 20 Sep 2008 02:37 AM CDT

Thanks for the link. It was enjoyable. I thought it was a very cool and candid interview.

She sounded quite "green" at interviewing and Brian seemed to respect her in his answers. Seemed like a student interviewing a mentor to me.  The "pretty girl" comment was a clever curve ball! Who knows  Grin

Zooey is a VERY "pretty girl". I'd say the same thing if I were in Brian's shoes. Does anyone know is she likes non-famous guys who are about 5-6 years younger than her and live on the other side of the country??? I'm totally "crushing" on her right now.

Drummer Earl Palmer dies at 84 [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 20 Sep 2008 02:14 AM CDT

LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Leading R&B drummer Earl Palmer, best known for his New Orleans recording sessions with the likes of Fats Domino and Little Richard, died on Friday at his home in Los Angeles at age 84, his family said.

Palmer, who died after a lengthy illness, played on hundreds of hits during a career that ran from the 1940s through the 1970s and earned him an induction into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

His drumming on such hits as Fats Domino's "The Fat Man," Richard's "Tutti Frutti and Smiley Lewis's "I Hear You Knockin'" featured the strong back beat that was his signature and helped transform the lope of rhythm and blues into the full-tilt thrust of rock 'n' roll.

"That song required a strong after-beat throughout the whole piece," Palmer wrote of his work on "The Fat Man" in his 1999 autobiography, "Backbeat -- The Earl Palmer Story."

"With Dixieland you had a strong after-beat only after you got to the shout last chorus," he said. "It was sort of a new approach to rhythm music."

Palmer also played drums on Domino's "I'm Walkin,'" the Righteous Brothers' "You've Lost That Lovin' Feelin,'" Ike and Tina Turner's "River Deep, Mountain High," and Sam Cooke's "Twistin' the Night Away."

His handiwork behind the drums was featured as well on a number of popular television themes, including "The Odd Couple," "77 Sunset Strip" and "The Brady Bunch."

In addition to his collaboration with R&B and blues artists in New Orleans, Palmer was a highly sought-after session player for recording stars ranging from Frank Sinatra and Sarah Vaughan to Elvis Costello, Ray Charles, Dizzie Gillespie and Count Basie.
Reuters/Nielsen.

Also: http://www.drummerworld.com/drummers/Earl_Palmer.html

Didn't he play on The Beach Boys' "Please Let Me Wonder" as well?

Black Cab Sessions [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 20 Sep 2008 02:07 AM CDT

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/video/2008/sep/18/brian.wilson.black.cab.sessions


I'd heard about this but hadn't seen it anywhere - very cool.

d'oh - missed that one!!

Re: Brian and astrology / astronomy [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 20 Sep 2008 01:22 AM CDT

Tim White's book "Nearest Faraway Place" mentions that Murry bought Brian a telescope as a present when he was a kid.  Murry wanted to watch the above-ground nuclear tests then being done in Las Vegas, so they could share that experience together as a form of father-son bonding.  I'm not sure how well you could see Las Vegas mushroom clouds from Hawthorne, anyways.  But it did spark an interest in star-gazing.

Re: My Beach Boys marathon! [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 20 Sep 2008 12:53 AM CDT

A couple more....

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20/20  (1969)

I gotta admit... I started getting worried about my Boys at this point.  Those last couple albums were pretty awful.  But... despite the dark stories behind its production (involving both live sex AND murder - what an album!), "20/20" turns out to be a hell of an album that, I'm sure, was ignored by the American public.  Of course, the group was maturing quite a bit by now; the most obvious example being "All I Want To Do," in which Dennis informs us that he wants to DO IT WITH US, and he apparently WON'T take no for an answer!  (Not exactly "Surfer Girl," is it?  Well, there is that bit about the 'Woody'...)  This newfound maturity actually endeared itself to me; because as I've said before, I found the early Beach Boys albums to be a little *too* immature.  They're still aware of their roots, though - "Do It Again" seems to say 'Yes, we're still the Beach Boys and we can still sing about surfing and dancing;' though admittedly, the snippet of 'Smile's "Workshop" at the end is completely out of place and awkward.  "I Can Hear Music" is another return to roots, being a Phil Spector cover that beautifully emulates his echo-laden style.  There's also a nod to the styles of 'Wild Honey' in the form of "I Went To Sleep," the piano sound of which places the song very comfortably alongside the material from that earlier album.  We even get another instrumental, "The Nearest Faraway Place," which (surprisingly for a Beach Boys instrumental) ends up being completely AMAZING; it's just a shimmering, dreamlike, strangely familiar-sounding instrumental that everyone should hear at least once in their lives.  It's just that wonderful.  Of course though, the album has its downpoints, the most serious of which I'll get to in a moment; but for now, I should mention the inclusion of the two 'Smile' tracks "Our Prayer" and "Cabinessence."  "Our Prayer" absolutely does not belong tucked away at the end of an album, and as such, it sounds totally out of place; and obviously, there's the grave disappointment of it not bursting right into "Heroes and Villains!"  "Cabinessence" is less obtrusive, but even still, its rich lyrics and arrangement make it stick out like a sore thumb compared to the rest of the album.  Okay, 'Smile' issues aside, let's get to the big, big, big, BIG problem - "Never Learn Not To Love."  Why is this creepy-ass song a problem?  Well, there is that nagging fact that Charles Manson wrote it, and Dennis stole it, thus leading to Charlie trying to kill Dennis (which then led to Dennis beating the hell out of Charlie); and oh yeah, Charlie also became enraged at Dennis's pal Terry Melcher, a record producer, who by chance had moved out of his house, but Charlie's 'family' didn't know that when they went to kill Terry, and they found Sharon Tate instead...   Anyway, I don't give a damn about how nice the harmonies might be, or anything like that - the cold hard fact is that this song should never have been included on reissues of the album; or for that matter, the original album period.  Crazy Manson song aside (yes, I'm gonna try to wrap this up positively), I really liked this album.  Giving this a score's gonna be tough, however...
MY SCORE (IGNORING "NEVER LEARN NOT TO LOVE") - 9.5/10
MY SCORE (INCLUDING "NEVER LEARN NOT TO LOVE") - 7.5/10


REVERBERATION  (unreleased - 1969)

I'm going to pass on this one at the moment. Since it's basically little more than a very early version of the "Sunflower" album, I will return to it later on, as I want to discuss the 'prototype' albums separately.


BEACH BOYS '69 - LIVE IN LONDON  (1970)

Oh no, not another live album?  Well, this one was at least tidied up for release, so it shouldn't be near as painful as the last one.  The story behind this album is interesting, because at this point, the Beach Boys were much more popular in England than in America.  That said, almost as a reward to their faithful English fans, they turn in a *very* listenable show.  "Darlin'" is a high energy opener, though not particularly different compared to the album version; while it's nice to hear *decent* takes on "Wouldn't It Be Nice" and "Sloop John B", especially given the 'we're so high we just don't give a damn' renditions on the Michigan recordings.  I actually believe I read someone say online that they felt this version of "Sloop John B" to be the best; I don't really agree, because I find the almost mariachi-like horn section to be a bit intrusive.  As for the other numbers, the now-obligatory "California Girls" is just a strictly by-the-numbers rendition (with a bad edit in the intro to boot), but seems to go well alongside the nostalgic "Do It Again," which has a killer ending to it this time around.  Even the tricky "Good Vibrations" shines gorgeously, in an amped-up, pounding performance that the audience absolutely loves.  (Mike adds a hilarious ad-lib to the song as well, giving a VERY Prince-like monologue during the organ section!)  The energy of the audience is actually a highlight of the album; because unlike the now-disinterested Americans, these girls are STILL screaming for the boys as if it was still 1964.  The group seems to be on their game as well, with Mike interacting well with the audience.  Interestingly though, the boys don't seem to want to present themselves as "that surf band" again, because much of their classics have now been bumped from the setlist, making this album unique among their various live recordings.  The lack of the old material doesn't harm the enjoyment factor, however, 'Live In London' actually turns out to be a surprisingly entertaining and energetic album; though, sadly, it seems a bit too short, due to what was in reality a fairly brief set.
MY SCORE: 9/10


Incidentally, I found a copy of "Aloha From Hawaii" on someone's blog, so I'm gonna have to jump back and fill in the review for "Lei'd In Hawaii" at some point soon....

Re: CWF event announcement [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 20 Sep 2008 12:22 AM CDT

Looks superb.

However from the UK it's unrealistic of me to think it anything but a beautiful Californian dream.  Sad

We are well served by Brian and the Mike & Bruce Boys tours but we get very little of the related performers on these shores.
Not criticizing them as I know that there are reasons of age and high tour costs etc. just stating a view and I hope that those who can attend do so.
   

Re: CWF event announcement [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 19 Sep 2008 11:29 PM CDT

I can afford the $100.  Just not all the other expenses to get there from Oklahoma (on short notice), pay for a hotel and rental car, miss the time from work without pay and etc.  It comes up closer to $erveral hundred for me were I to go.


Most of you California people will, hopefully, be able to go.  If you have to drive take Monday off.  There just aren't going to be too many things like this in the future.  Go while there is something to go to.  It's a GREAT lineup!

Greg

Re: BLUE? vinyl 45 [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 19 Sep 2008 11:24 PM CDT

 Cheesy

I got the package last week.

I got the blue vinyl single and a limited edition numbered lithograph.

It's from Brian's Holywood Bowl show.


Re: CWF event announcement [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 19 Sep 2008 10:57 PM CDT

That's one hell of a lineup!  Shocked

Wish I was in Cali for this. I also wish I had $100. Sad

Re: CWF event announcement [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 19 Sep 2008 10:37 PM CDT

Concert details are now up on the CWF website, including acts. Tickets are now on sale. Hope to see ya there!

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SAVE THE DATE!
Sunday, October 19, 2008

Carl Wilson Tribute -- 10 Year Anniversary Benefit Concert & Fundraiser

Venue: The Roxy Theatre (http://theroxyonsunset.com/)
Location: 9009 Sunset Blvd., W. Hollywood, CA 90069
Phone: (310) 278-9457
Donation: $100 (tax deductible)
Doors: 6 p.m.
Showtime: 7 p.m.

Performers: Al Jardine, David Marks, Guitar Legend Dick Dale, Carnie & Wendy Wilson, The Honeys, Adam Marsland's Chaos Band, and Special Guests.

Tickets are available exclusively through the Roxy (cash and credit cards accepted at the door, credit cards only accepted for phone orders). The price of tickets includes light hors d'oeuvres. Seating is on a first come, first serve basis. Valet parking is available, and there is a $5 parking garage across the street in the 9000 Building. A live auction will be held during the show.

www.carlwilsonfoundation.org
www.myspace.com/carlwilsonfoundation

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