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| Re: Dylan Question-opinion for all Zimmerman-heads... [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 30 Sep 2008 04:30 AM CDT Bringin' it all back home for me too!! Damn, unlike Highway 61 and Blonde on Blonde(for me), for some reason that one never gets old. I also think his late sixties/early seventies stuff is pretty underrated. I Shall Be Released from his Greatest hits vol II is probably my favorite song--maybe ever. I just sort of like his lyrics a little more when they are not trying so hard to be surreal and poetic, I find the lyrics of, say, Ballad of a Thin Man to be just a little forced. I realize it was all groundbreaking and new, but where's the soul? The soul is in the music of Ballad of a Thin Man more than the lyrics. |
| Re: Do you like 60's girl-group style pop? [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 30 Sep 2008 04:04 AM CDT Do check out Laurie's stuff, it's very good. Great harmonies . Great tunes. |
| Re: TLOS: any comments from Mike, Al or Bruce yet? [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 30 Sep 2008 03:02 AM CDT Stop challenging gospel. Opinions are allowed, but impotent. The songwriters you prefer are inferior. If you insist on liking them, we will smile, pat your head and excuse you to the kids' table. I agree that Dylan had a profound impact on popular music, but he is not untouchable! Guess what, inferiority is highly subjective! Neither of our opinions really mean much in the long run, but I'm going to stand by mine because I'm a stubborn butthole. And gospel needs to ALWAYS be challenged!!! And yes, I realize this thread has gone wayyyy off-topic, I apologize for that. No man, Dylan is at the top. Maybe one day you will hear this. Seriously, it's all about the Dylan. I was just having a conversation about this today. He was definitely the most influential amongst his peers, and his talent is so multi-faceted it wouldn't be right to try and summarize them. Side note: Streaming Bootleg Series 8 - http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=95047293 Also, TLOS is a good album |
| Re: Dylan Question-opinion for all Zimmerman-heads... [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 30 Sep 2008 02:27 AM CDT The first five albums, Nashville Skyline, and World Gone Wrong. If I had to choose one Dylan album, I'd choose Bringin' it All Back Home or Bootleg Series volume 6. |
| Re: check out my sweet desktop [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 30 Sep 2008 01:29 AM CDT Vista may look cool, but it doesn't run cool. My laptop which ran on Vista died on me (but then again, it's also a Gateway. Gateway+Vista probably equals EPIC DOUBLE FAIL!) |
| Re: TLOS: any comments from Mike, Al or Bruce yet? [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 30 Sep 2008 01:25 AM CDT Stop challenging gospel. Opinions are allowed, but impotent. The songwriters you prefer are inferior. If you insist on liking them, we will smile, pat your head and excuse you to the kids' table. I agree that Dylan had a profound impact on popular music, but he is not untouchable! Guess what, inferiority is highly subjective! Neither of our opinions really mean much in the long run, but I'm going to stand by mine because I'm a stubborn butthole. And gospel needs to ALWAYS be challenged!!! And yes, I realize this thread has gone wayyyy off-topic, I apologize for that. |
| 2008 TOPPS BLACK BRIAN WILSON 34/57 ["brian wilson"] Posted: 29 Sep 2008 11:02 PM CDT |
| Brian Wilson - That Lucky Old Sun (CD 2008) ["brian wilson"] Posted: 29 Sep 2008 10:35 PM CDT |
| Re: TLOS: any comments from Mike, Al or Bruce yet? [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 29 Sep 2008 09:45 PM CDT Stop challenging gospel. Opinions are allowed, but impotent. The songwriters you prefer are inferior. If you insist on liking them, we will smile, pat your head and excuse you to the kids' table. |
| Re: TLOS: any comments from Mike, Al or Bruce yet? [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 29 Sep 2008 09:22 PM CDT But it rocks. They come from different traditions, different influences(other than Chuck Berry). The only people who may have Dylan beaten or are on par with him in the lyric department, IMO, are Van Dyke Parks, Jack Reiley, Steven Page of Barenaked Ladies, and Jeff Mangum of Neutral Milk Hotel. I've always thought Dylan should write lyrics for Brian, even if it's only for one song. Jack Reiley??? Barenaked Ladies? Seriously, none of these people you mention even hold a candle to Dylan's lyrics. Have you ever even listened to Dylan other than "Blowin' In The Wind"? Maybe I'm just trying to delude myself because I'm tired of always hearing about how great Dylan is/was. Dylan is great; nothing wrong with that. No harm done if he's not your taste; but to deny his profound impact on popular music is absurd. The same could be said for Brian Wilson. |
| A World of Peace Must Come: opinions? [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 29 Sep 2008 09:03 PM CDT  Have we gotten, you know, world peace? Has everybody learned "How To Speak Hip"? Just thought I would solicit some reactions 'cause I haven't had a lot of disposable income to buy it yet and wanted to see just how "interesting" (only interesting?) people find it to be and whether it warrants a higher level of motivation in order to get it RIGHT NOW. Liner notes by A.B. must be good. Concept cool. Music? |
| Southwest F.O.B. [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 29 Sep 2008 09:03 PM CDT Anybody heard of them? Anybody here dig 'em? |
| Re: Friends [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 29 Sep 2008 07:33 PM CDT t really lame lyrics. Brian should have collaborated with a lyricist on this one. He was collaborating. Mike Love, Carl Wilson, Dennis Wilson, Al Jardine...You are absolutely correct, sir. I've always been under the impression that the other guys' writing contributions were minimal on FRIENDS (then again, I'm probably way off on that). I guess what I meant to say was perhaps Brian should have collaborated with a lyricist outside the group. But then maybe that wouldn't have gone over so well after the VDP situation the previous year. Oh, well, it is what it is. Let's all enjoy it. |
| Re: Questions about Dennis's death [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 29 Sep 2008 07:22 PM CDT I thought it was better known actually. Brian in his own words tried to commit suicide by drowning himself. That's been reported in a few places actually, and it was touched on in the Wilson Project book. Apparently Brian went into further detail in some interview, but honestly I've never read that interview or know too much more about it. If anybody else has a scan, or remembers more, now'd be a good time to post! I read about it in Carlin's book. Remember reading that the handler or whoever turned his head for about a minute and when he looked back, BW was already a hundred meters out to sea, swimming as fast as he could. Brian must've REALLY wanted to kill himself, being afraid of the water and all. |
| Re: TLOS: any comments from Mike, Al or Bruce yet? [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 29 Sep 2008 07:20 PM CDT But it rocks. They come from different traditions, different influences(other than Chuck Berry). The only people who may have Dylan beaten or are on par with him in the lyric department, IMO, are Van Dyke Parks, Jack Reiley, Steven Page of Barenaked Ladies, and Jeff Mangum of Neutral Milk Hotel. I've always thought Dylan should write lyrics for Brian, even if it's only for one song. Jack Reiley??? Barenaked Ladies? Seriously, none of these people you mention even hold a candle to Dylan's lyrics. Have you ever even listened to Dylan other than "Blowin' In The Wind"? Maybe I'm just trying to delude myself because I'm tired of always hearing about how great Dylan is/was. |
| Re: Be My Baby [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 29 Sep 2008 06:51 PM CDT Yeah, the version I have is an m4a of the Back to Mono version. That might be it. |
| Re: TLOS: any comments from Mike, Al or Bruce yet? [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 29 Sep 2008 06:36 PM CDT But it rocks. They come from different traditions, different influences(other than Chuck Berry). The only people who may have Dylan beaten or are on par with him in the lyric department, IMO, are Van Dyke Parks, Jack Reiley, Steven Page of Barenaked Ladies, and Jeff Mangum of Neutral Milk Hotel. I've always thought Dylan should write lyrics for Brian, even if it's only for one song. Jack Reiley??? Barenaked Ladies? Seriously, none of these people you mention even hold a candle to Dylan's lyrics. Have you ever even listened to Dylan other than "Blowin' In The Wind"? |
| Re: Is this real? [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 29 Sep 2008 06:35 PM CDT "Light the camp and fire mellow" sounds like a cool line anyway. |
| Re: Paul Newman passes away at 83 [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 29 Sep 2008 04:55 PM CDT yeah, i knew about his condition, and he knew it was comming soon. I'm watching the Sting and Butch Cassidy in memory |
| Brian Wilson Rare Cd Sweet Insanity Vigotone 112 Dylan ["brian wilson"] Posted: 29 Sep 2008 04:03 PM CDT |
| Re: Is this real? [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 29 Sep 2008 12:25 PM CDT there's a cabin essence lead sheet in LLVS. with a spelling error on it. (that's the other, usual, advantage of publishing company lead sheets: official lyrics. it's astonishing how many artists have the wrong lyrics in print; even more astonishing how often this is because they've long forgotten what they sang.) Make it at least two spelling errors: "Light the camp and fire mellow..." "Constellations evan flow there..." There are some typos in the TLOS printed lyrics, btw....and apparently a huge deal of the printed lyrics in Smile are wrong... |
| THE BEACH BOYS*VIGOTONE 5 CD BOX SET*OOP LTD. EDITION ["beach boys"] Posted: 29 Sep 2008 10:28 AM CDT |
| Re: Is this real? [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 29 Sep 2008 06:21 AM CDT And another thing: if you'd produce fake hand written Beach Boys sheet music, wouldn't you rather go for a Pet Sounds or Smile track than for "It's Just a Matter of Time"? |
| Re: Be My Baby [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 29 Sep 2008 05:03 AM CDT I seem to recall a quote by brian that the later reissues of of spector's stuff "had the guts taken out of it"......i.e.......it was not how he remembered......something was lost............ I'm not 100% certain, but I think Brian discusses that in an interview with Paul Williams which can be found in the How Deep Is The Ocean? book |
| Re: Be My Baby [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 29 Sep 2008 04:38 AM CDT unless you just plain don't care for the song......then the best amp and turntable in the world might not help.... |
| Re: Be My Baby [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 29 Sep 2008 04:37 AM CDT I can't blame you for not being as impressed as you think you should be. ...Not until you have heard it on a good copy of the orginal 45 on a proper turntable and a good amp(preferably an old tube amp) and good speakers . I imagine this is close to how Brian was used to hearing it , at least back when he fell in love with it....., im sure bri had a very nice hi fi, and even if he didnt, when he heard it on the radio back then it would've been in the superior original mix(if listened to closely you can hear an inferior remix is used on the back to mono and best of ronettes cd's from abcko) it also would've been played on an expensive broadcast quality turntable.....I seem to recall a quote by brian that the later reissues of of spector's stuff "had the guts taken out of it"......i.e.......it was not how he remembered......something was lost............I just dont think spector gives a dookie about these reissues........although the import cd from abcko a few years ago was a slight improvement...... |
| Re: Brian comments on possibilities of a BB reunion [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 29 Sep 2008 04:30 AM CDT I think the only interest would be in some form of a reality TV/ album tie-in deal and I don't want that. Cue the "When are those kids going home??" theme song! |
| Re: Is this real? [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 29 Sep 2008 04:21 AM CDT A few years ago, I won an auction (from Heritage Galleries, I think) of an acetate of "The Warmth of the Sun", along with sheet music that looked very similar to what is being offered in this auction. The items were dated 1974, and the presence of "Almo Music" on the label seems to indicate this. What exactly were these acetates and lead sheets used for? Reference copies to send to copyright offices? i think so - publishers (rather than record companies) used to file them, so songs could be confirmed as copyrighted before they were released, in case of legal disputes. the practice all but died out in the early 1990s. although i once had to join page and plant in the studio to write out lead sheets for all the tracks on 'walking into clarksdale'. (this isn't name-dropping, by the way: it illustrates a point.) they hadn't finished the album at the time, so jimmy sat and played them to me on the guitar. they were near PARANOID about being bootlegged before release (or, more accurately, before delivery), and wanted to get everything watertight and watermarked - so they bothered to file recorded and written copies of their new material. belt and braces, i suppose. there's a cabin essence lead sheet in LLVS. with a spelling error on it. (that's the other, usual, advantage of publishing company lead sheets: official lyrics. it's astonishing how many artists have the wrong lyrics in print; even more astonishing how often this is because they've long forgotten what they sang.) |
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