Monday, July 21, 2008

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Re: Lowest point in the BB career? [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 21 Jul 2008 06:45 AM CDT

I don't like it because Brian is singing way too high for the era. Note Daddy's Little Girl suffers from the same problem. I don't think a car song was what Brian or Mike should have been doing when something like Baby Let Your Hair Grow Long or Somewhere Near Japan shows they could do so much more. .Just substandard to me, reeks of Landy.

Re: Your Early Influences [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 21 Jul 2008 06:21 AM CDT


Oh yeah, I remember those too !  Cheesy
Luckily my father had a very soft spot for the old time country music from the USA and Rock'n'Roll. I think the first song I can vividly remember hearing was "Desparados waiting for a train" by the Highwaymen (Cash, Nelson, Kristofferson, Jennings) and after I heard "All shook up" and "Hound dog" by Elvis the road was open for me to discover all that great stuff. Rock'n'Roll, Country, Blues, Pop, etc. .... It's still the music I listen to the most and that inspires me with my own music...

Re: The Dark Knight [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 21 Jul 2008 04:01 AM CDT

I am going to see the moive, but it will air in Austria in one month.  Cry

Ledger is a great actor but nobody can beat Nicholson.  Smiley 

Re: Lowest point in the BB career? [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 21 Jul 2008 03:40 AM CDT

"In My Car" goes off the rails because of the mix, which is awful, just totally cluttered.  There is a decent  song in there, though.

Anyone see the version on the ENDLESS SUMMER show?  Brian's performance is spotty, but the song takes on an almost martial feel with the different lyrics in the verse.

Re: Wondermints music [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 21 Jul 2008 03:38 AM CDT

Someone once said that Libbyland reminded them of Brian.  I don't know if it was about Brian.....but in retrospect, looking at that opening line and the subject matter....it could very well be about Brian....

Libbyland is about a friend of the 'mints that was around back in the day...you don't know her.

Oops...but Rob does!  Shoulda read through before I posted.  Yeah, it's about Eileen...a real sweetie.

Re: Wondermints music [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 21 Jul 2008 03:37 AM CDT

Someone once said that Libbyland reminded them of Brian.  I don't know if it was about Brian.....but in retrospect, looking at that opening line and the subject matter....it could very well be about Brian....

Libbyland is about a friend of the 'mints that was around back in the day...you don't know her.

Re: Did Brian really say that? [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 21 Jul 2008 03:34 AM CDT

I read the interview where Brian said he regretted his first marriage.  I'm not sure where it was from, but I have no problem believing Brian said it and may have meant it at the time.  As is often pointed out, he can change his mind from day to day.  But they were both awfully young when they married.  Brian had such severe problems.  Maybe he meant in that statement that he regretted putting Marilyn through so much, not just that he was sorry he married her because he wasn't happy with her.  I don't think David Leaf has a very favorable opinion of Marilyn.  She does not come off very well in "Beach Boys and the California Myth."  So, I think Brian has more than just Melinda in his life that is not a fan of Marilyn.  I don't doubt Landy wasn't crazy about her, either.   I think Brian did benefit by having Marilyn in his life.  He might have wound up in a worse place without her.  I also feel the same about Melinda, regardless of what some people write about her.  No matter what she's done that supposedly the public is not privy to, that marriage has worked for Brian.   He could have done worse.

I've met both Melinda and Marilyn.  I have nothing against Melinda.  Marilyn, who I've spent more time around, is awesome.  I just wanted to say that.

Re: Did Brian really say that? [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 21 Jul 2008 03:31 AM CDT

I read the interview where Brian said he regretted his first marriage.  I'm not sure where it was from, but I have no problem believing Brian said it and may have meant it at the time.  As is often pointed out, he can change his mind from day to day.  But they were both awfully young when they married.  Brian had such severe problems.  Maybe he meant in that statement that he regretted putting Marilyn through so much, not just that he was sorry he married her because he wasn't happy with her.  I don't think David Leaf has a very favorable opinion of Marilyn.  She does not come off very well in "Beach Boys and the California Myth."  So, I think Brian has more than just Melinda in his life that is not a fan of Marilyn.  I don't doubt Landy wasn't crazy about her, either.   I think Brian did benefit by having Marilyn in his life.  He might have wound up in a worse place without her.  I also feel the same about Melinda, regardless of what some people write about her.  No matter what she's done that supposedly the public is not privy to, that marriage has worked for Brian.   He could have done worse.

Re: Did Brian really say that? [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 21 Jul 2008 03:18 AM CDT

I have a strange feeling that he may somehow, deep down inside, regret  wanting a divorce from Marilyn.

I doubt Brian wanted a divorce. The final straw from Marilyn's site was when Brian tried to give young Carnie a drug. Now think about that for 2 seconds. You can only imagine what else was going on in the Wilson household around that time. And that was after the first Landy therapy. I guess Marilyn just didn't have the nerves to go through the whole hell once again, they had two children to raise. Landy was the only doctor who had any success with Brian, they tried different psychiatrists before.

Re: Brian's Back [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 21 Jul 2008 02:37 AM CDT

Yeah, I'll grant that one.

Re: sloop john B with carl and dennis lead? [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 21 Jul 2008 02:35 AM CDT

Never made it to vinyl sadly.

Re: sloop john B with carl and dennis lead? [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 21 Jul 2008 01:59 AM CDT

Take 1 of Don't Talk, I believe, first circulated way back in 1982 when the first session material from the 60s leaked out, although at the time this was unbooted stuff. Also circulated during this period was a vocal session for Please Let Me Wonder, a vocal session for Do You Wanna Dance, some Pet Sounds session clips (You Still Believe In Me, I Just Wasn't Made For These Times, Wouldn't It Be Nice), and of course, several more Smile fragments, although those had existed on cassettes as early as the late 1970s.

Re: Brian's Back [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 21 Jul 2008 01:57 AM CDT

To me, there is one line in Endless Harmony that's heartfelt - "mid-60s screaming and that nighttime Holiday Inn scheming". It brings to my mind an image of the Beach Boys, Carl and Dennis especially, running around making mischief in a hotel after a gig. It also sounds like it's an inside joke.

Re: Did Brian really say that? [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 21 Jul 2008 01:13 AM CDT

Now, that was way back in 1988. For Brian to say that once is funny. For him to do it again is just plain disturbing.  LOL

Re: Did Brian really say that? [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 21 Jul 2008 01:09 AM CDT

LOL I like how that was not spoken over by the narrator. If you didn't know the context...

Brian's barber fodaed up, as you can tell his hair is uneven in the back. I hate it when that happens.

Re: Did Brian really say that? [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 21 Jul 2008 12:47 AM CDT

Listen very carefully at around 5:03 into this clip:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=FuaY96UsmK8

Re: Did Brian really say that? [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 21 Jul 2008 12:44 AM CDT

Q: Brian, what is your opinion on the war in Iraq?
A: The world needs more love. Love and Mercy, I call it. Cake is good. Very good. Real spiritual, cake is.

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I remember the quote that someone else shared in another thread, about how he doesn't listen to the Beach Boys' music, because that would be like masturbating to your own stuff (or something to that extend)

LOL Yep, and he made the hand jesture, too.

BTW, welcome to the board!

Aww, Brian and his cake. Wouldn't it be funny if Brian got his people to ship a ton of birthday cake to Iraq to preach love and mercy? Something like that wouldn't even shock me anymore, honestly.

Ha, the hand gesture was just the cherry on top. I laughed so hard when I read that, because I could just picture Brian doing that, and then carrying on like nothing happened. I wonder if the interviewer could keep a straight face.

And thank you so much Smiley

Re: Did Brian really say that? [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 21 Jul 2008 12:35 AM CDT

Q: Brian, what is your opinion on the war in Iraq?
A: The world needs more love. Love and Mercy, I call it. Cake is good. Very good. Real spiritual, cake is.

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I remember the quote that someone else shared in another thread, about how he doesn't listen to the Beach Boys' music, because that would be like masturbating to your own stuff (or something to that extend)

LOL Yep, and he made the hand jesture, too.

BTW, welcome to the board!

Re: Did Brian really say that? [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 21 Jul 2008 12:34 AM CDT

Yeah, no doubt. I really think there's money to be made in a book full of Brian's quotes, kind of like the "In Their Own Words" Beach Boys book. I can picture it now "The Wit and Wisdom of Brian Douglas Wilson". To top it off, there should be a section where Brian is asked about a variety of different topics (war, drugs, sex, religion, food) and he has to say the first that that comes to mind. Which is pretty much what he does anyway, but still...

There's money to be made in that, people!

Hahaha, that would be an interesting read, I'm sure. The funniest (and probably the most endearing) thing is that he doesn't even realise how it sounds to other people. He's just answering questions honestly, and probably doesn't put any thought into whether it's appropriate or not. Very childlike.

I remember the quote that someone else shared in another thread, about how he doesn't listen to the Beach Boys' music, because that would be like masturbating to your own stuff (or something to that extend). SO Brian.

Re: Brian's Back [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 21 Jul 2008 12:33 AM CDT

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I agree completely...for all of Mike's distasteful actions over the years, this song was (in his own way) a genuine tribute to his cousin.  Like you said, it's corny for sure, but touching at the same time.  Bruce's "Endless Harmony" is just as corny but doesn't seem as genuine, just schmaltzy

Good distinction. Mike can write great lyrics, esp. if he's feeling it. You can tell the lyrics are heartfelt, and whatever they lack in poetic sensibility, they make up for in genuine affection. Bruce, on the other hand, sounds like he was just writing a song, and it shows.

Re: Did Brian really say that? [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 21 Jul 2008 12:31 AM CDT

I like food.  Grin

Re: Did Brian really say that? [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 21 Jul 2008 12:30 AM CDT

Yeah, no doubt. I really think there's money to be made in a book full of Brian's quotes, kind of like the "In Their Own Words" Beach Boys book. I can picture it now "The Wit and Wisdom of Brian Douglas Wilson". To top it off, there should be a section where Brian is asked about a variety of different topics (war, drugs, sex, religion, food) and he has to say the first that that comes to mind. Which is pretty much what he does anyway, but still...

There's money to be made in that, people!

Re: Did Brian really say that? [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 21 Jul 2008 12:27 AM CDT

That is SO Brian.

Re: Stickies [Smiley Smile Message Board]

Posted: 21 Jul 2008 12:25 AM CDT

That's a good idea. A Hall of Fame subforum would be ideal. I noticed that the Carlin and esp. the Boyd threads are pretty much dead.

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