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| Are We Normal? [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 02 Sep 2008 06:18 AM CDT Don't be scared. I don't mean to infer that we should be institutionalized. But over the years I more than once thought: Beach Boys fanatics could be, erm, just that little be more fanatic/obsessed/.... (fill in your own term) than other pop pundits. But perhaps I am completely wrong. I never visit other music boards; and the amount of sheer knowledge here about that little fart that Al let loose in 1960 and that got recorded by accident on the Wollensak recorder and that appears on bootlegs that set you back $ 1000 is, eh, amazing, if that's the word. Are Beatles fanatics the same? Or Kiss aficionados? Throw me your opinions. | ||
| Re: Brian Wilson - TLOS \ [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 02 Sep 2008 06:03 AM CDT I just saw it, and it's a pretty entertaining performance-Brian's leads sound good-but the BVs sound funny, even processed, but I don't doubt their live. "Midnight's Another Day" was flawless, and "Morning Beat" got my blood flowing... | ||
| Re: TLOS bonus tracks [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 02 Sep 2008 05:29 AM CDT I have bought the CD+DVD version, and there are no bonus tracks. Can they be aquired separately? (I don't live in the US.) As far as I know Andreas, the Best Buy version is only available to order for US residents and the iTunes version you have to buy the whole album again just for the bonus tracks. | ||
| Re: Reaction to the loss of Brians voice [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 02 Sep 2008 05:14 AM CDT At last! I have an ally!! Good to hear it!   I just love the tack piano and the big synth bass, and there are lots of quirky little details scattered around it too. Let's party between the three of us then. JOIMF is a true highlight for me. It has an emotional depth that the Righteous Brothers don't reach, probably because Bri and Carl are real brothers. The line 'Though I Can't Give You The World'... it doesn't get much more soulful than that. Thanks for all the comments, all very interesting, incidentally 'Just once in my life' is my favourite track off 15 Big Ones, its so ominous sounding, its brilliant and towers over the Righteous brothers version. Production wise its similar to Brians take on 'You've lost that lovin feelin'. I like the backing track of Had To Phone Ya better than the vocal version for some reason though. I recall, from a long time ago, that a certain Peter C. had had access to a sitting with Alan Boyd (?) where he heard exactly that: the backing track of HTPY in demonstration sound quality. He was raving. Do you know anything about that? I just had another thought: Brian has said several times that he wasn't always that enthusiastic about his falsetto (that's the reason he didn't want 'Let Him Run Wild' on the GV 30 Years box - he found his voice too girlish, too 'wimpy'. Could it be that for that reason he refused to 'gloss over' his rougher, more 'male' voice in later years? | ||
| Re: TLOS bonus tracks [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 02 Sep 2008 05:03 AM CDT I have bought the CD+DVD version, and there are no bonus tracks. Can they be aquired separately? (I don't live in the US.) | ||
| Re: The Peter Ames Carlin Thread [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 02 Sep 2008 04:19 AM CDT Can I first say that I am currently reading 'Catch A Wave', and that I am hugely enjoying it? It is unputdownable. Well-written, and with really lots of new info... after all the BBs literature, I'd never thought that anyone could come up anymore with a book like this. So: hats off to PAC. | ||
| Brian's Yahoo music concert now online [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 02 Sep 2008 04:17 AM CDT | ||
| Re: Be My Baby [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 02 Sep 2008 04:16 AM CDT Quote So I've been listening to Be My Baby on loop for the past 45 minutes, and I really don't see what's so special about this song. I don't think the arrangement is very exciting, and I hate those frickin' castanets or whatever that percussive Latin sound is So what was your reason for listening for 45 minutes nonstop if you don't like it? I could understand perhaps once or twice, as a part of some academic exercise. ...is a point. Although I would never begrudge someone doing that, I wouldn't be able to do that myself, because of the risk of not wanting to hear it ever again. But well, could be an attempt to experience what Brian felt when he did that (and he did that repeatedly, according to his own reports). But then: Brian has a tendency to 'repeat'. It can be heard on SMiLE blegs with those ongoing repeats of the 'Bicycle Rider' theme, for instance. I always felt that repeating favourite tunes for Brian function as 'sedatives', to make him feel at ease. Anyone else ever thought this? | ||
| NEW BRIAN WILSON That Lucky Old Sun CD +3 BONUS TRACKS! ["brian wilson"] Posted: 02 Sep 2008 04:16 AM CDT
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| Re: Favourite version of Surf's Up? [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 02 Sep 2008 04:07 AM CDT My favourite version (breaking the rules!) is that 1972 radio version with Carl singing over electric piano. | ||
| Re: TLOS bonus tracks [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 02 Sep 2008 04:04 AM CDT I'll be intrigued to hear these, having listened to the clips I think i'll probably like them more than a couple of songs on the album. | ||
| Re: Reaction to the loss of Brians voice [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 02 Sep 2008 04:02 AM CDT At last! I have an ally!! Good to hear it! I just love the tack piano and the big synth bass, and there are lots of quirky little details scattered around it too. Let's party between the three of us then. JOIMF is a true highlight for me. It has an emotional depth that the Righteous Brothers don't reach, probably because Bri and Carl are real brothers. The line 'Though I Can't Give You The World'... it doesn't get much more soulful than that. Thanks for all the comments, all very interesting, incidentally 'Just once in my life' is my favourite track off 15 Big Ones, its so ominous sounding, its brilliant and towers over the Righteous brothers version. Production wise its similar to Brians take on 'You've lost that lovin feelin'. I like the backing track of Had To Phone Ya better than the vocal version for some reason though. | ||
| Re: Be My Baby [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 02 Sep 2008 03:42 AM CDT Quote So I've been listening to Be My Baby on loop for the past 45 minutes, and I really don't see what's so special about this song. I don't think the arrangement is very exciting, and I hate those frickin' castanets or whatever that percussive Latin sound is So what was your reason for listening for 45 minutes nonstop if you don't like it? I could understand perhaps once or twice, as a part of some academic exercise. | ||
| Re: Guardian TLOS review- one star [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 02 Sep 2008 03:16 AM CDT Intriguing. I once was a U2 aficionado. But I am not interested in their latest output (same goes for R.E.M. actually). But even if a newspaper offered me review space, I wouldn't feel the need to use it. My thoughts: let others enjoy it. Period. | ||
| Re: To all the brains on this board, I need your help! [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 02 Sep 2008 03:12 AM CDT John, that would be the ticket, but how to choose?  I have about 175 boots to make sessions of, but am rather looking for the "good stuff" they omitted as you said. Where oh where to start? Um... 175 boots? Are you a lottery winner by any chance? Or did your maths suffer from solvent inhaling? | ||
| Re: Favourite version of Surf's Up? [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 02 Sep 2008 03:09 AM CDT Album. Fun thing: my younger brother bought one of these luxurious Warner Bros. 4 LP sets in the 70s, when we were still school kids. Title: 'Superstars Of The Seventies'. Could have been an effort to cash in again on well-known stuff by James Taylor, Carly Simon, The Faces, Doobie Bros. I was just getting into the BBs way back then... and I listened to Surf's Up (which was the closing track on one of the sides) with eager anticipation. Imagine: I was a tad disappointed, because it carried no 'easy' chorus to sing along with, nor the usual 'beach joy mood'. Things changed. Now it's one of my all-time favourites. I rate it above GV and many other chestnuts. | ||
| Re: Reaction to the loss of Brians voice [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 02 Sep 2008 03:02 AM CDT At last! I have an ally!! Good to hear it! I just love the tack piano and the big synth bass, and there are lots of quirky little details scattered around it too. Let's party between the three of us then. JOIML is a true highlight for me. It has an emotional depth that the Righteous Brothers don't reach, probably because Bri and Carl are real brothers. The line 'Though I Can't Give You The World'... it doesn't get much more soulful than that. | ||
| Re: Be My Baby [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 02 Sep 2008 02:58 AM CDT I'm surprised he wasn't obsessed with "Keep on Dancing" more. That has a whole waltz thing to it and the intro holds similarities to H&V. Same thing with "Do I Love You." My thoughts, yes. Perhaps 'When I Saw You' would be a candidate too, because it's sophisticated, it doesn't 'explode' into a major chorus like so many Spector songs do. And over the years Ronnie's 'wavering' voice lost a bit of its charm for me, and LaLa Brooks, for her sheer panache and enthusiasm, rose a somewhat in my affection. But really, I still like all of it. | ||
| Re: Van Dyke Parks [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 02 Sep 2008 02:55 AM CDT Q magazine (list #63 at: http://www.rocklistmusic.co.uk/q150lists.htm) claims Song Cycle is the 4th most expensive album ever (a claim repeated in Wikipedia) at 218,000 pounds in today's money ($48k then?). But the gap between VDP and the top 3 is absurdly wide, so I don't find this credible at all-- surely many big albums have cost more than $300,000 US? http://futureboy.homeip.net/fsp/dollar.fsp?quantity=48000¤cy=dollars&fromYear=1968 Intriguing call. I sometimes wonder how long it took VDP to realize Song Cycle. Because modern 'superbands' look very lazy to me. They rake in millions with touring and take years to make an album. Surely that must be very costly? But then, they can even afford losing money on a CD, because of those ugly ticket prices they demand nowadays for a stadium seat about 5 miles away from the stage...  | ||
| Re: Reaction to the loss of Brians voice [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 02 Sep 2008 02:30 AM CDT At last! I have an ally!! Good to hear it! I just love the tack piano and the big synth bass, and there are lots of quirky little details scattered around it too. | ||
| Re: The TLOS variants [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 02 Sep 2008 02:30 AM CDT The whole issue with the various bonus tracks leaves me with a bitter taste from what should be a 100% joyous occasion. I bought the CD/DVD, but it's the only version i will pay money for. I don't mind eventually buying multiple versions of my favourite albums (LP, CD, remastered w/bonus tracks, etc...) but to HAVE to buy them is wrong. Perhaps some kind souls on here could enable others to hear them? | ||
| Re: Official TLOS Album Reviews [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 02 Sep 2008 02:24 AM CDT I don't find anything incredibly profound in any of the lyrics on TLOS beyond Midnight's Another Day. In fact, I implied that the silliness of the lyrics was to the album's benefit. Sure, there's more going on, yeah, but silly is silly and opinions are opinions. | ||
| Brian Wilson @ The Hollywood Bowl Sat. Sept 13th ["brian wilson"] Posted: 02 Sep 2008 01:54 AM CDT | ||
| Re: Official TLOS Album Reviews [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 02 Sep 2008 01:50 AM CDT ...The bit I'm not clear on is how "Que bonita muchchacha / Dontcha know that I wantcha" is supposedly different from "I'm pickin' up good vibrations / She's givin' me the excitations", or "Aruba, Jamaica, ooh I wanna take ya". These don't hit me as '70s brian-damage lyrics -- a song about Johnny Carson this is not. It's the good-old-fashioned boy-girl thing, in all its beautiful dumbness. In fact, the thing that's striking me so far about the lyrics is how there's more going on than first appears on the surface -- even "Mexican Girl" manages to tie in with the overall motif of the healing power of music. And if you compare "Oxygen To The Brain"'s sophistication -- both its point about not wasting your life, and its use of those running images of dawn, music, and reawakening -- to previous health-songs like "Too Much Sugar", it's like night and day. As it were... Cheers, Jon Blum | ||
| Re: Favourite version of Surf's Up? [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 02 Sep 2008 01:48 AM CDT Not sure I followed all that...so what you're saying is that you essentially created the Anne Wallace version? No, the Anne Wallace version, and the Purple Chick version, duplicate the BWPS arrangement. They omit the 1st Movement-Instrumental track (with powerful horn arrangement). If you have heard the Vigotone or Gema boot versions of Smile/Surf's Up, you know what I'm talking about. Take that version and tack on the 'CITFOM' tag from the 1971 version. With the release (on GV boxset) of the instrumental track, and Brian's double tracked vocal with piano, much higher quality mixes of those boot versions have been made. I took one of those and edited on the 'CITFOM' tag. It is not my original idea as I'd read of others doing it. Sorry to be confusing. I confuse myself. | ||
| Brian Wilson - TLOS "Live at Yahoo!" is available [Smiley Smile Message Board] Posted: 02 Sep 2008 01:35 AM CDT Brian Wilson, live at "Yahoo! Nissan Live Sets" http://new.music.yahoo.com/nissanlivesets 5 TLOS songs + 3 classics + Q&A. Pretty good performance I think! Enjoy! STE | ||
| BRIAN WILSON Midnight's Another Day ORANGE VINYL 7" ["brian wilson"] Posted: 01 Sep 2008 07:19 PM CDT | ||
| BEACH BOYS 1964 IN CONCERT TOUR PROGRAM BOOK ["beach boys"] Posted: 01 Sep 2008 02:08 PM CDT | ||
| Brian Wilson CD That Lucky Old Sun NEW (9/2) ["brian wilson"] Posted: 01 Sep 2008 01:03 PM CDT |
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